Politics FOX NEWS ANCHOR CONFRONTS SURGEON GENERAL OVER TRUMP DECLINING TO ISSUE NATIONAL LOCKDOWN

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    FOX NEWS ANCHOR CONFRONTS SURGEON GENERAL OVER TRUMP DECLINING TO ISSUE NATIONAL LOCKDOWN: 'CORONAVIRUS DOESN'T RECOGNIZE STATES' RIGHTS'

    Fox News anchor Chris Wallace pressed Surgeon General Jerome Adams to explain why the administration of President Donald Trump has not put forward a national stay-at-home order to curb the spread of the novel coronavirus, despite the advice of many health experts.

    Wallace interviewed Adams on his weekly show Fox News Sunday, pointing out that even Dr. Anthony Fauci--the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases who is a key figure of Trump's Coronavirus Task Force--has expressed support for a national lockdown. But Trump has insisted that governors should decide whether or not to give such an order within their own states.

    "Dr. Adams, the coronavirus is not a state issue. It doesn't follow or respect state borders. Dr. Fauci says he believes that there should be a national stay-at-home order," Wallace pointed out. "Is he wrong?" he asked.

    Adams noted that "most" people are "doing the right thing" nationwide, saying that "over 90 percent of the country is staying at home." He said that many people were even staying home in the few states that have not implemented lockdowns. The surgeon general then compared the coronavirus to the opioid epidemic and smoking. He argued that states generally handle those issues differently, pointing out that more people will die from smoking than coronavirus.

    "But Dr. Adams, there's a big difference between opioids and cigarettes, which are something that people decide to use or not to use, and the coronavirus, which people catch," the Fox News host responded "It's not an individual choice," he said.

    "You know, when President Trump says he's a wartime president, during World War II FDR [former President Franklin D. Roosevelt] didn't say: 'Well, it's up to each state to decide what to do.' He mobilized the nation," Wallace said.

    "Again, why not a national stay at home order?" he asked. "The coronavirus doesn't recognize states' rights. So does the federal analogy really work here?"

    Adams responded by saying that governors are "intensely protective of their right, and rightly so, to be able to decide what's best for their states." The surgeon general explained that he and other scientists and medical professionals would "do everything we can" to help governors and states understand the right thing to do.

    As Wallace noted, Fauci said last Thursday that there should be a national lockdown to adequately curb the spread of the coronavirus.

    "The tension between 'federal mandated' versus 'states' rights' to do what they want is something that I don't want to get into," the public health official said in a CNN interview. "But if you look at what's going on in this country, I just don't understand why we're not doing that. We really should be."

    Most states have already implemented varying stay at home or shelter in place orders. Schools, restaurants, bars, gyms, cinemas and public events have been shut down in much of the country as residents are urged to stay inside except for essential purposes. But several governors were late to issue such orders, neglecting to do so until thousands of cases of coronavirus had already been confirmed in their states.

    Trump has repeatedly argued that such decisions should be left up to the states. But the White House has put forward stringent social distancing guidelines, which currently will remain in effect until April 30.

    https://www.newsweek.com/fox-news-a...ump-declining-issue-national-lockdown-1496199
     
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    Trump won’t commit to a national lockdown of any type because it’s a huge decision that would finally admit how fucking wrong he was at the beginning. He’s got 8 states that are living their lives like pre coronavirus and that makes him happy.
     
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    For me, this was the most telling part of the article;

    "You know, when President Trump says he's a wartime president, during World War II FDR [former President Franklin D. Roosevelt] didn't say: 'Well, it's up to each state to decide what to do.' He mobilized the nation," Wallace said.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I feel bad for Fauci and the surgeon general. They seem like they were probably decent guys before they were corrupted by Trump.

    Birx I'm not so sure about. She strikes me as a more willing participant in the evil empire.

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    I think Fauci has been pretty straight up the whole time. He’s time and time again corrected and took an opposite stance from Trump.

    I honestly think that old timer doesn’t give a rats ass if Trump gets rid of him or not. He seems ready to retire after all this.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    He's trying to straddle the fence between getting fired and giving in to Trump's fantasy world. He will fail at that, Trump is excellent at pushing people off that fence. First Fauci will destroy his credibility by going along with something he knows to be nonsense, and then Trump will fire him anyway.

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    Fauci is not corrupted.

    He was asked about Trump's promoted cure, tried to explain again no hard data and Trump interrupted him to say HE had answered 15 times.

    Turns out Trump administration has purchased 29 million Hydroxychloroquine doses. It's all about getting rich for him.
     
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    he doesn't look it, but he's about to turn 80 this yr. But i think he realizes the grave danger if he is fired for the country. Ive been saying from day 1 that he's the only one we should trust, think he realizes it to. It's the only reason why he hasn't gone on an all out media circus denouncing Trump and his policies.

    Birx is a quack, she uses big words and medical jargon to talk down to people, but when you dig just a bit deeper, there is very little substance in what she says. She simply toes the company line while misleading and deceiving the public.
     
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    Rudy bought $2 million in Novartis stock in Feb. they are one of the primary manufacturers of Hydroxychloroquine. just fyi.
     
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    Amazingly, he's served 5 Presidents. That said, he was quoted here in the New England Journal of Medicine on March 26th...

    Fauci.jpg
     
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    uh what are you trying to say? Read it again. I know you and your friends like to play the gotcha game thinking you have something here, but I have read the article in full https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2002387

    He submitted it before Feb 28, it was published on this site March 26.

    He very clearly highlights how unpredictable it is and how easily it is being spread. He also clearly mentions in your highlighted paragraph that it is an ASSUMPTION "that the number of asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases is several times as high as the number of reported cases." Until tests are made available to everyone, this is impossibly to quantify.

    And in literally the paragraph after this one:

     
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    Sure, and why again would he relate this near the top of the article?:

    This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively.

    Hey, I trust the man's judgment, but, to me, it was at least an interesting response. No "gotcha" intended.
     
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    Yeah, I get the same feeling about Birx as she seems to kowtow to trump at times.
     
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    Ask yourself, which is a bigger number? 0.1% of 1 billion, or 10% of 8,000?

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    Link?
     
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    Pi, Pi is the bigger number.
     
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    Out of how many golf balls?
     
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    That depends. How much of the Pi are you getting?
     
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