Fisher agrees to 3-year contract with the Lakers

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>LAS VEGAS - For all intents and purposes, Derek Fisher will re-join the Lakers. Fisher and the Lakers have agreed to a three-year contract worth about $13,959,000, league sources said. However, there will be a holding period before he can sign the contract. Fisher, who was released by the Utah Jazz last week, has to clear waivers first. It'll take seven days before Fisher can clear waivers, and that won't start until his previous contract of $20,592,600 that he walked away from is amended to zero dollars.</div>http://www.pe.com/sports/basketball/breako...12.412003a.html

 

I'm alright with that. A lot of people don't like the signing, but we desperately needed a true veteran point guard. Not only will he rub off his triangle experience and smarts to Farmar and Critty. He will also contribute and this might convince Kobe to lean to coming back. (If he wasn't already) I love D-Fish. :dribble:

 

This news made my day big time. YES!!!! lol

 

<span style="font-family:Tahoma">I kinda wanted Cleveland to sign him, but with or GM taking the off-season off.. It was impossible. But good signing for L.A, IMO. 13 million to shoot the basketball.. Man, I need to get a job. </span>

 

Finally I'm so happy hes back and now we have a great PG instead of garbage Smush....

 

There is a God..

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brando @ Jul 12 2007, 02:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Finally I'm so happy hes back and now we have a great PG instead of garbage Smush....</div>I wouldn't call Fisher great, especially in his old age, but he should do well. He can start and play 20-25 minutes with JC and Farmar splitting the other half of the time. Hopefully he'll teach the young guys how to play PG in the triangle.

 

Sky's post on cl basically summarised all of my feelings<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The telltale sign of a big Fisher fan. What do all your comments above have in common? (cue Jeopardy theme) What is shooting Alex?Fish knocked down shots in this game, mutliple big shots in that one, the other guys don't hit big shots, how many wide open 3's did Blake miss? Shooting. More shooting. And then there's shooting. Oh yeah did I leave out shooting?Fine we get it you care most about shooting. I care most about defense.How did the Jazz get to 50 wins?Carlos Boozer 20.9/11.7 on 56% fgDeron Williams 16.2/9.3Mehmet Okur 17.6 including 38% from 3+5.5 rebounding differential, best in the leagueWithout Fisher they don't beat GS in the second round? Trying to imply Fisher was their most important player in that series? Without Fisher they lose a game, without Boozer they go golfing. Warriors lost the series on the glass far more than Fisher's shooting. Kirilenko also came up huge , 13 blocks in the first two games and a 21/15 night in the closeout. But since his contribution was on defense and he didn't shoot well....Fisher had two 20+ games and shot the ball well, props to him for that he was clutch. But Boozer and Kirilenko were more central to the series win.On to defense. You claim Fisher did a good job on Baron. First, Baron was on one leg for that series. Second he still managed to put up 28.6 ppg and 7.6 ast, (4.2 stl) for the series. if that's effective defense I'd hate to see bad D.Now to the regular season. .504 eFG against for Fisher. A truly miserable stat when you consider Smush was at .468.Fisher's shooting that you love so much? Regular season .308 from 3 and .412 from 2. You can point to the playoffs and he does step up, no argument. But during the season he bricked it big time, does that again for LA and he won't help them get a better seed with his shooting.It's not 2001 any longer. Fish isn't gold from 3, Shaq isn't back there to swat penetration. We face Phoenix again it's a pick and roll festival as one of the worst p/r defenders in the league gets torched time and again.Fisher is a class act, he'll be a good mentor and leader, has the precious, proven he can hit big shots in the playoffs. Great things to have, he does bring positives. However he will get incinerated on D, his regular season shooting was abysmal, and he is a banana slug nightmare in transition and finishing.You can't just sweep the negatives under the rug and point to his playoff shooting success as a panacea. Anybody runs pick and roll we're shredded wheat and out of the playoffs. Defense matters. Fisher can't play it.</div>

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Melo061 @ Jul 12 2007, 07:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Sky's post on cl basically summarised all of my feelings</div>Then again, Fisher wasn't in the triangle defense, which will help him succeed greatly. We're pretty solid on defense when the team is healthy, but we need Fisher to create the open man most importantly. I think within three years, he'll have put enough knowledge into both Farmar and Crittenton to succeed as point guards.So to sum it up, I'm excited greatly about this.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (HCL @ Jul 13 2007, 12:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Then again, Fisher wasn't in the triangle defense, which will help him succeed greatly. We're pretty solid on defense when the team is healthy, but we need Fisher to create the open man most importantly. I think within three years, he'll have put enough knowledge into both Farmar and Crittenton to succeed as point guards.So to sum it up, I'm excited greatly about this.</div>Triangle defense? You mean triangle offense? If so, derek did play in the triangle offense.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Melo061 @ Jul 12 2007, 07:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Sky's post on cl basically summarised all of my feelings</div>Lighten the F*ck up dude. No matter what happens with the Lakers it always has to be negative with you. No matter what the FO does they're wrong. If they're not making moves they're not doing the right thing, if they are making moves they're making the wrong ones. It's like the situation Kobe got in where every game he either shot too much and was a ballhog or shot too little and didn't try.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Melo061 @ Jul 12 2007, 08:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Triangle defense? You mean triangle offense? If so, derek did play in the triangle offense.</div>Sorry, I've been pretty high

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ChuckTheD @ Jul 13 2007, 02:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Lighten the F*ck up dude. No matter what happens with the Lakers it always has to be negative with you. No matter what the FO does they're wrong. If they're not making moves they're not doing the right thing, if they are making moves they're making the wrong ones. It's like the situation Kobe got in where every game he either shot too much and was a ballhog or shot too little and didn't try.</div>Making moves is one thing. Making the right moves is another.The problems that have plagued us for the last 3 years have been defense, defense and more defense. Sans shaq we've been giving up 101 pg. You get the picture.We've been torn up the last two post seasons because of our inability to play pick and roll defense. What do the front office do? Pick up one of the worst P&R defenders in the league. Get some game tape of Mike Bibby and Troy hudson tearing him up. That was 4 years ago. Were not talking about pre2002 derek fisher who was a decent defender.The laker front office are in love with offense first type of players. That is the reason why they resigned luke walton and signed derek fisher. They value "b-ball iq" over defense. I don't.We need leadership and a lockeroom precense. But over defense? Nope, no way in hell.Stats tell the story<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Now to the regular season. .504 eFG against for Fisher. A truly miserable stat when you consider Smush was at .468.</div>

 

Oh and the money they are paying him. 14 million dollars for a guy of his calibur Get used to that type of defense

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Melo061 @ Jul 13 2007, 02:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Making moves is one thing. Making the right moves is another.The problems that have plagued us for the last 3 years have been defense, defense and more defense. Sans shaq we've been giving up 101 pg. You get the picture.We've been torn up the last two post seasons because of our inability to play pick and roll defense. What do the front office do? Pick up one of the worst P&R defenders in the league. Get some game tape of Mike Bibby and Troy hudson tearing him up. That was 4 years ago. Were not talking about pre2002 derek fisher who was a decent defender.The laker front office are in love with offense first type of players. That is the reason why they resigned luke walton and signed derek fisher. They value "b-ball iq" over defense. I don't.We need leadership and a lockeroom precense. But over defense? Nope, no way in hell.Stats tell the story</div>If they're in love with offense first type players how come we've kept Kwame, we drafted Farmar and Crittenton, and traded for Mo Evans. You can't be contenders every year. Our front office is just trying to rebuild from losing the most dominant player in the game. It's not that easy.

 

I think Crittenton will be an All Star someday. He has that look of an All Star for some reason imo. I think he will develop until our future starting shooting guard when Kobe is gone.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ChuckTheD @ Jul 14 2007, 03:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If they're in love with offense first type players how come we've kept Kwame, we drafted Farmar and Crittenton, and traded for Mo Evans. You can't be contenders every year. Our front office is just trying to rebuild from losing the most dominant player in the game. It's not that easy.</div>evans? I mean comeon, he is a decent defender but when he comes on he looks to score not to d up. He was known as a scorer before the nba, not a defender. Farmar and Javaris were drafted not because of defense, I don't know where you heard that. Kwame? Probably the only move they made which helped defensively.Drafting cook, rush, sasha, walton amd signing derek fisher. There's a pattern.There rebuilding 3 years too late. Now that kobe went on his tirade they actually start doing their jobs.

 

I am happy. Remember I said that we should try to bring back him or Horry, so I am glad we got one of them back.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KobeBryant_24 @ Jul 14 2007, 08:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I am happy. Remember I said that we should try to bring back him or Horry, so I am glad we got one of them back.</div>Horry would be reasonable, he'd be a back up 4 and would help on the boards. Derek on the other hand will most likely be starting. the's alarming because we got torched at the 1 last season. Derek is worse defensively than smush.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Melo061 @ Jul 14 2007, 07:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Horry would be reasonable, he'd be a back up 4 and would help on the boards. Derek on the other hand will most likely be starting. the's alarming because we got torched at the 1 last season. Derek is worse defensively than smush.</div>So you also agree that francis would have been a much better signing?(for a team thats having trouble establishing a third option)