Time to trade CJ

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  1. kjironman1

    kjironman1 Well-Known Member

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    Agree. His shoulder injuries messed with him a bunch also. I'm in the "Lets see what we really got" group with 1M. Would love to see what he brings in another year or even two.
     
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    https://fadeawayworld.net/2020/05/10/nba-rumors-cj-mccollum-could-be-traded-to-76ers/

    NBA Rumors: CJ McCollum Could Be Traded To Philadelphia 76ers

    Portland Trail Blazers receive: Al Horford, Matisse Thybulle, 2020 second-round pick (via New York Knicks or Brooklyn Nets)

    Philadelphia 76ers receive: CJ McCollum

    “If the Blazers use the top pick to replace CJ McCollum (with Anthony Edwards or LaMelo Ball), then this trade would beef up their frontcourt,” Bailey wrote. “Rookie Matisse Thybulle already looks like an elite defender (12th overall in FiveThirtyEight‘s defensive ratings). Al Horford’s ability to man the 4 or the 5 and play inside or out makes him a fit with any of Jusuf Nurkic, Zach Collins or Nassir Little. With one trade, Portland could jump from 27th in defensive efficiency into the upper half.”
     
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    Ben Simmons or bust.
     
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    That would be a horrible trade.
     
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    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

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    We don't need Horford. These trades are done by fan media of those teams. Tobias Harris is the only Sixer i would want in a Blazers uni. I sure as heck don't want LaMarshmello.
     
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    https://syndication.bleacherreport....trade-earns-praise-from-nba-insiders.amp.html

    The Miami Heat are one of many teams interested in CJMcCollum, but the buzz around the league is that the Portland Trail Blazers are asking for the world. Sources close to Portland disagree, saying they've gone far down the road with two separate franchises but just haven't crossed the finish line with their prolific scoring guard. The Blazers have also had talks with multiple teams surrounding forward Trevor Ariza.
     
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    You're aware of the difference between fantasy league "trades" and real NBA trades, right?
     
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    Blazers need to improve at defending guards.

    Plus more ball movement would make them more enjoyable to watch,

    A trade of CJ for Jrue Holiday makes sense for both teams, but, probably will not happen.
     
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    Even if he was unaware these were part of a fake game, teams can't "discuss" trades right now and the trade deadline has passed anyway. No excuse for him.
     
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    I think we just need to dump cj for his salary alone. He's become a no defense lamarcus Aldridge.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    How long have I been hearing stuff like this.
     
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    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    I said the same here.

     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Bump.
     
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    Does the emergence of GTJ make CJ expendable? I love CJ personally, but it has to be considered a legit possibility.
     
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    Not just GTJ but Simons and Elleby. We have people that can fill in and do a better job on defense. We should try to cash in CJ for a small forward.
     
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    I think Simons would have to improve like crazy for Neil to consider trading CJ. Assuming Simons continues to develop but is still raw, what I can see happening is Trent getting the extension probably worth around $18m. And we will probably see a trio of Lillard 35/ McCollum 35/Trent 26 at the guard position. And with this being my lowest expectation, I would be happy with this.

    And a SF I see as a perfect fit here is Otto Porter Jr. If the Bulls continue to tank, they will probably waive him. I think we still have the bi-annual exception—we would probably be in the lead money wise, and he would have a shot to compete. With Otto, we would have a Covington 30/Porter 30/Hood 24 at the forward spots with Nurk 27/Kanter 21.

    If the Bulls end up waiving Porter and he signed with us, that would already greatly improve the roster without even having to trade CJ. I don’t see us getting a George/Kawhi/KD/Tatum/Brown kind of wing in a CJ deal and anything outside of them and probably one of the dominant bigs like KAT/Embiid would not be worth it to me.

    If CJ keeps pushing toward a 5-6ppg career average and Trent keeps working on his handle and playmaking, I don’t think we will ever need to consider trading CJ barring a disgruntled star or something along those lines.
     
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    Are you saying that we would pay Gary 18 million per year and keep CJ? If you are, just next year... and Dame's raises keep getting bigger, next year we will be spending 92 million on three guards. That's insane. We won't be able to stay afloat. Why would we even need the redundance of CJ? What we would need is a capable PG to backup Dame and that's it. Although we could get something really good for CJ... not an all nba player but something really really good. Hopefully that good player would come from a team with cap space and that good player would make far less than CJ. That would give us flexibility. Any way you want to slice it CJ and Dame are no good together. They both suck on D. On offense they step all over each other. So I know Neil won't but he could do so much better.

    Also Porter is getting more than the fucking BAE ($3M) but honestly none of that really matters because the guys you have listed before Porter cost more than 133 million but that's without Kanter who you don't provide means to sign. That's also with you neglecting the fact that Jones can opt in but I guess if he does we can let Hoodie go. If we kept both we'd be at 143M without a backup C. We'd also be letting Zach walk... and then there is the pesky fact that we have another 6M committed to Nas, Elleby and deadcap... and then at least one more roster spot to fill that's another million. So that's 140M if Hoodie or DJJ walks. Still no backup C. So luxury tax and no back up big, in fact no one on the roster over 6'7" besides Nurk. I don't think the plan works.
     
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    Trent JR is much better for Dame than CJ. CJ contract will be massive once it expires he be free agent anyway. It be smart move to trade him
     
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    Uh, if Porter gets bought out he'll sign for the league minimum.
     
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    I don't see it. He still shoots 40% from three and when you look at his per36 numbers he's definitely not a vet min guy. I realize his injury issues make him a huge liability but I think he'll get better than the BAE.
     

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