OT God Bless America!!

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  1. Propagandist

    Propagandist Well-Known Member

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    It's as if you haven't read any of the things you've posted in the last couple of days...
     
  2. riverman

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    You want someone to answer this question for you then you might not know who you are to begin with
     
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    4th of July...why celebrate the end of the revolutionary war with more explosions and gun powder?....seems music or even a moment of silence would be more fitting....last thing a soldier wants to do is shoot a gun when the war is over....never understood that tradition....not a fireworks fan at all ….have a parade, bbq, anything but shooting off gunpowder...it's like....let's torture all the dogs in the country for a day!
     
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  4. ABM

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    On that note, I just watched a documentary on Waco. What a tragedy that was. Janet Reno (and/or underlings) should've been indited. Even Bill Clinton missed it.
     
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    Because John Adams wanted us to. Before the Declaration of Independence was even signed, he envisioned fireworks as a part of the festivities. In a letter to Abigail Adams on July 3, 1776, he wrote that the occasion should be commemorated “with Pomp and Parade, with Shews, Games, Sports, Guns, Bells, Bonfires and Illuminations from one End of this Continent to the other from this Time forward forever more.” The first commemorative Independence Day fireworks were set off on July 4, 1777. The Pennsylvania Evening Post wrote that in Philadelphia, “The evening was closed with the ring of bells, and at night there was a grand exhibition of fireworks (which began and concluded with thirteen rockets) on the Commons, and the city was beautifully illuminated.” The paper noted that “Everything was conducted with the greatest order and decorum, and the face of joy and gladness was universal.” That same year, fireworks also lit up the sky in Boston, where they were exhibited by Col. Thomas Crafts over the common. By 1783 a large variety of fireworks were available to the public. In 1784 one merchant offered a range of pyrotechnics that included “rockets, serpents, wheels, table rockets, cherry trees, fountains, and sun flowers.”
     
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    Well I disagree with the tradition..I know they wrote epic songs about it and most love it....the Chinese love to set off fireworks whenever anyone gets married, opens a business, has a baby, etc....sometimes the air always smells like sulfur...it's annoying as hell if you live around it....the fireworks tradition here I'd rather see replaced with music..food and general celebration
     
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    It wouldn't bother me if they stopped. We live directly under a huge show and every year I tell my wife think of the money they are shooting into the sky. I do get concerned with fires too.
    My neighborhood has a fireworks ploicy and they hand out $1000 fines for illegal fireworks. Another way for government to justify someone job or division.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    I too fear for fires. Of course, I'm old and not young.
     
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    You have no idea how ignorant this statement is. Lest you forget all the systemic oppression that doesnt allow people basic human rights.

    I'll feel lucky to be here when this country starts to treat all of its citizens like human beings. Until then, there will always be work to do to make this a country to be proud of. Cause right now it sure as hell isnt.

    And that is MY right. So if you give him that right then you give me this right.
     
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    There isn’t any systemic racism in this country. There isn’t any denial of human rights. That’s the big lie that Black Lives Matter is propagating. That’s the big lie that the media is advancing to keep the country divided. We have more laws against prejudice and racism than any country on earth. We’ve passed scores of affirmative action programs and anti-poverty programs. We’ve established Enterprise Zones in our cities to promote businesses and investment. We even have laws that establish financial support for single black mothers who are raising kids alone. The black middle class has been growing for years partly due to some of these laws, and we now have more black-owned businesses and black millionaires than at any time in our history. There are more opportunities for blacks in America than any other country, which is why blacks keep coming here from all over the world.

    This idea that police forces around the country are out to get blacks is absurd. In 2019 there were a grand total of nine killings of unarmed black men around the country, and 19 instances of cops killing unarmed white men. In most of those nine killings of black men, the cop was in danger for his life. Look it up. It’s all a matter of public record. The ridiculous neck hold that Chauvin was applying to Floyd has been used on other races of criminals with the same disastrous results. It not just something these bad cops do to black men. They do it to everybody—black, white, asian, hispanic, you name it. It’s bad policing, but it’s not racist.

    In a great irony, the number of people killed due to the riots exceeds the number of black men killed by bad cops last year. And the property damage done by the rioters in urban areas across the country, including the destruction of a new low-income housing building in Minneapolis (you can’t make this stuff up) is much worse than anything supposedly inflicted on the black community by white Americans.
     
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    You lost me RIGHT here!
     
  12. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Yeah, I figured I would. You can’t challenge the lie. The lie is sacred. The lie has to be propagated. It’s how the left keeps black Americans in line. It’s all pretty sad.
     
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    so you think just because a law is passed requiring equality, it is then adhered to 100% and all racism ends with a paper saying everyone is to be treated equal??

    I can put on paper im a king and deserve ten percent more than everyone else on earth.
    Doesn't mean its true or ever gonna happen.

    words on paper don't mean shit unless the words are followed in real time and real life.


    Yes the words on paper leave a path for this country to be the greatest ever. But until the words are followed its just hot air.
    And the words are CLEARLY not being followed it you just pay attention to daily current events.
    So this leads me to a question for you.

    do you think facets of the kkk still exist in this country and if so, do approve of their stance on racial domination?


    And one more question for you on your statement about the riots and destruction.

    if this country is so great, then how did it come to be so?

    it wasnt with riots and destruction of king georges property was it??


    And so if the country was made great by rioting against an oppressing monarchy, why arent blacks able to do the same against an oppressing capitalist government?

    Just to make sure im not misunderstanding, it seems like you are saying it was perfectly fine for The euro settlers to riot and destroy in order to claim independance and get out of the smothering wing of england, but it is not okay for Blacks to do the same to get out from under the wing of capitalist oppression?

    oh and lets not forget. The settlers you are somewhat claiming were justified and created a great country, did it with slaves and wiping out 90% of the natives on this land.... in the name of freedom and equality....


    So last question. What is it exactly you think made this country so great again???
     
  15. ABM

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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    https://nypost.com/2020/07/04/trump-not-biden-has-helped-make-black-lives-better/

    ......I personally do not agree with everything President Trump says or does, and I often find myself on national TV as a conservative pundit saying exactly that. But I would be lying if I didn’t tell you that Trump has been one of the most impactful presidents for African Americans from a policy perspective — and that’s what matters......
     
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    I have black friends and I stand with them for social justice and opportunities. They believe we as country have taken good leaps in in racism but still have a ways to go. They also think opportunities have improved, but still a aways to go. We just need to consider reforms and community growth and opportunities to keep things propelling the right direction.
     
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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    The question was rhetorical.
     
  19. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Exactly.
     
  20. UncleCliffy'sDaddy

    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    Typical whitesplaining at it’s finest......
     
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