<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheAnalyst @ Jul 18 2007, 03:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Have you seen a summer league game?I dont want Yi because I dont want to be in the situation the Bucks are in. Even though that might not happen.</div>Summer league doesn't mean anything, Williams is playing alongside mostly scrubs and D-league players.If you don't believe me then look at this:http://www.nba.com/celtics/news/slbox_010719_wassea.htmlBTW, Delonte4prez, I'm sure that the Bucks want to keep Mo Williams as the starter. Him and Redd mesh together very well when healthy and afer only 4 season in the NBA; he's already shown off how very talented he is. Right now, Williams could start on many teams in the NBA.Bucks don't need Andre Miller with Mo Williams on their squad.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GArenas @ Jul 18 2007, 04:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Summer league doesn't mean anything, Williams is playing alongside mostly scrubs and D-league players.</div>But you said he hasnt shown potential. Summer league or not he has shown some.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Lefty @ Jul 18 2007, 02:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why would Milwaukee give Yi and fillers for Carney?</div>I meant fillers on each side.
(The Lefty) Brandon Phillips is not the best 2nd basement Chase Utley from the Phillies is clearly by a land slide. Palanco from the Tigers fromer Philly is also great from AL.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Delonte4Prez @ Jul 18 2007, 03:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I like the idea of philly giving up Andre Miller for Yi.Think about it, bucks get a pass first vetren pg they've been looking forand Philly can build around a young core of Yi Iguodala and Louis Williams.I like it both ways.</div>1.) salaries aren't even close. 2.) Philly wouldn't give up their only veteran for Yi Jianlian. bad deal
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (time takes time @ Jul 18 2007, 08:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>1.) salaries aren't even close. 2.) Philly wouldn't give up their only veteran for Yi Jianlian. bad deal</div>Bad deal? Are you kidding me? People need to stop overrating Miller for real. I would do it in a hard beat anyone would.
I'm not overrating Andre Miller. He is a very solid point guard, and a veteran, something a very young sixers team will need next year. you can't win with a bunch of inexperienced but talented youngsters. You will need some veteran leadership to lead the way. and like I said to begin with, the salaries are not even close.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Serge @ Jul 18 2007, 05:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>(The Lefty) Brandon Phillips is not the best 2nd basement Chase Utley from the Phillies is clearly by a land slide. Palanco from the Tigers fromer Philly is also great from AL.</div>Polanco is overrated becuase he was on Detroit last year.You have an argument with Utley, but Phillips has more power and more of a threat on the bases.But Phillips is easily the most underrated second basemen in the league.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Serge @ Jul 18 2007, 06:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Bad deal? Are you kidding me? People need to stop overrating Miller for real. I would do it in a hard beat anyone would.</div>Give me a break dude. He's the main reason we went .500 after AI left. I'm not saying he's the only reason we did it but he is the main one. Plus we would be a complete mess at PG. You would have to be an idiot to think that Louis Williams is ready to take that role. We would be a complete mess.
u guys need andre miller, him and iggy helped you went over .500 like iversonfan said above. they have good chemistryif your gonna go after yi, u cant trade miller... trade that shavlik randolph loser with carney and filler for yi and fillers
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheAnalyst @ Jul 18 2007, 04:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But you said he hasnt shown potential. Summer league or not he has shown some.</div>He's not a proven talent. There's no denying that he is a project at this point.Also, showing potential in summer league does not mean much. The competition he's playing with for the most part is weak.--Also, if I'm the Sixers I would keep Andre Miller. He's a solid veteran PG who's helped every team he's been on.
Billy King has a man crush for Yi Jinlian, so I'm absolutely positive he's on the phones trying to get a deal with Milwaukee. If anything happens, I think it would have to be a three-team deal, and those are the only types of trades Billy King has success in pulling.I'd give up anybody outside of Iguodala, Miller, and possibly Korver, Dalembert, and Williams... (those last three, it all depends on the trade).Even if nothing happens, we're fine. We have a sh*t load of cap room to go after some free agents after this season.
[quote name='time takes time' post='419095' date='Jul 18 2007, 09:50 PM']I'm not overrating Andre Miller. He is a very solid point guard, and a veteran, something a very young sixers team will need next year. you can't win with a bunch of inexperienced but talented youngsters. You will need some veteran leadership to lead the way. and like I said to begin with, the salaries are not even close.[/quote]Money yes might not match, but other then that if they did I am saying it be stupid not to do it. Yi will be like a Dirk/Pau type player very underrated.[quote name='The Lefty' post='419153' date='Jul 18 2007, 10:50 PM']Polanco is overrated becuase he was on Detroit last year.You have an argument with Utley, but Phillips has more power and more of a threat on the bases.But Phillips is easily the most underrated second basemen in the league.[/quote]Nah I think Polanco is good.And Utley I don't have to argue clearly the best 2nd basement not sure why someone would argue you that part.And was not saying he not underrated don't watch him like that to know.[quote name='iversonfan268' post='419207' date='Jul 18 2007, 11:32 PM']Give me a break dude. He's the main reason we went .500 after AI left. I'm not saying he's the only reason we did it but he is the main one. Plus we would be a complete mess at PG. You would have to be an idiot to think that Louis Williams is ready to take that role. We would be a complete mess.[/quote]The whole east suck please don't start with this again. 3rd seat in the East would not make playoffs out West probably. And we are rebuilding he needs to get time when were rebuilding so we can really see him, and he can get better. We don't need a old guy who we won't have to hold back Williams that is why we started to rebuild let Webber go, and traded AI. No reason for Williams not to get to start and learn as he goes starting.[quote name='junot111' post='419220' date='Jul 18 2007, 11:37 PM']u guys need andre miller, him and iggy helped you went over .500 like iversonfan said above. they have good chemistryif your gonna go after yi, u cant trade miller... trade that shavlik randolph loser with carney and filler for yi and fillers[/quote]Shav hustles I like that, but sure I don't care if we trade him. Carney I think we should keep. Shav they would not want probably anyway.And understand Miller is good, but we rebuilding the whole point was to get younger guys time.[quote name='BigMo763' post='419338' date='Jul 19 2007, 12:46 AM']Billy King has a man crush for Yi Jinlian, so I'm absolutely positive he's on the phones trying to get a deal with Milwaukee. If anything happens, I think it would have to be a three-team deal, and those are the only types of trades Billy King has success in pulling.I'd give up anybody outside of Iguodala, Miller, and possibly Korver, Dalembert, and Williams... (those last three, it all depends on the trade).Even if nothing happens, we're fine. We have a sh*t load of cap room to go after some free agents after this season.[/quote]I would give up anyone out side Iggy/Young/Williams/Carney. Miller is older as I said Williams needs to start get time to be ready when we ready to start winning. Korver just umm I would trade him in a minutes he great at 3's but he is worse on D then injury Webber, and AI combined. Sammy I would also trade with the kinda contract he has. Not sure why you would not have Young as your none trade?And not sure about sh*t load 9 mill after signing Iggy probably.
Yeah, I forgot Thad in there... and $9 million is enough to nab us a very nice power forward next year. The thing is, if I were in BK's position, I would talk to Iguodala and tell him we are 100% committed to re-signing him, but in order to have enough flexibility to bring in a big FA or a few very good FA's next offseason we will have to wait on his extension. That way we could have more than $9 million to spend in the offseason, and then we can re-sign Iggy because our cap number has no effect on what we can offer Iguodala.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigMo763 @ Jul 19 2007, 03:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, I forgot Thad in there... and $9 million is enough to nab us a very nice power forward next year. The thing is, if I were in BK's position, I would talk to Iguodala and tell him we are 100% committed to re-signing him, but in order to have enough flexibility to bring in a big FA or a few very good FA's next offseason we will have to wait on his extension. That way we could have more than $9 million to spend in the offseason, and then we can re-sign Iggy because our cap number has no effect on what we can offer Iguodala.</div>haha Yeah that be nice, but Iggy's people won't wanna do that. And if I was Iggy I would not trust anything Billy King has to say after what he has done to get AI help all those years, all the bad signings like Sammy, and just over all everything he has done pretty much I would not trust Billy King if I was Iggy. LOL
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Serge @ Jul 19 2007, 03:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>haha Yeah that be nice, but Iggy's people won't wanna do that. And if I was Iggy I would not trust anything Billy King has to say after what he has done to get AI help all those years, all the bad signings like Sammy, and just over all everything he has done pretty much I would not trust Billy King if I was Iggy. LOL</div>There's a huge difference between Andre Iguadola and Allen Iverson. Iguadola will not be relied on , scoring wise, nearly as much as Allen Iverson. The entire process of building a team around Iguadola is completely different than building it around a dynamic scorer like Iverson. Iguadola will need to be paired with a solid second and third option at this point in his career. Iguadola also will not be able to contribute 30 PPG every night like Iverson did. The way Billy King will pursue this situation will be completely different than how he handled AI. Hopefully he will handle this situation better than Iverson's.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GArenas @ Jul 19 2007, 04:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>There's a huge difference between Andre Iguadola and Allen Iverson. Iguadola will not be relied on , scoring wise, nearly as much as Allen Iverson. The entire process of building a team around Iguadola is completely different than building it around a dynamic scorer like Iverson. Iguadola will need to be paired with a solid second and third option at this point in his career. Iguadola also will not be able to contribute 30 PPG every night like Iverson did. The way Billy King will pursue this situation will be completely different than how he handled AI. Hopefully he will handle this situation better than Iverson's.</div>With Iggy you probably need to get more scoring that is harder to get then D guys sometimes. Who does not want more scoring everyone want's that. And D guy sometimes you don't have to pay as much as scoring guy's those always get a lot of money. I think it be easier to manage the cap to get more D guys then more scoring guys. I am sure Billy King could have found nice D guys who he would not have to spend lot's on if he did his work. Guys like a Bowen, Bell, anyone who just plays D like 2001 those guys most don't make us much money as the high scoring guys do. I think it was easier with Iverson actually as I said D guys cost cheaper so even though AI made lot's money it was still possible, and I think easier then with Iggy way.But Yeah let's hope he does a better job I will always be a Sixers fan just not sure why this guy is still the gm.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Serge @ Jul 18 2007, 09:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Bad deal? Are you kidding me? People need to stop overrating Miller for real. I would do it in a hard beat anyone would.</div>Serge what the hell is a hard beat, it's a heart beat your grammar sucks, but why would you want to trade Andre Miller he is what makes the team go, he's the straw that stirs the drink without Miller y'all would probably have a bad season next yr.
