<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Serge @ Jul 19 2007, 02:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Money yes might not match, but other then that if they did I am saying it be stupid not to do it. Yi will be like a Dirk/Pau type player very underrated.</div>oh yeah and what are you basing this on? summer league maybe? did you also take into account that he gets dominated by stronger players than him? He can't play on the blocks. Pau Gasol is a bad comparison.bottom line, not worth it to trade a sure-fire veteran like Andre Miller for a project like Yi. especially if miller is your only veteran.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GArenas @ Jul 18 2007, 01:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Looking at the Sixers situation, it's clear that they need a young PF with talent. Why not trade for Yi Jianlian's rights?The Bucks need to give him up because China refuses to let Yi play on the Bucks. Therefore, Yi's trade value goes down and he will be easier to acquire.I'm not sure if China want's Yi to play in Philadelphia either but it's better than Milwaukee. Yi will fit in well alongside Jason Smith as both play more of a perimiter game. The two can develop together.Yi will be the face of a currently faceless Philadelphia franchise. Marketing Yi and AI v2 together shouldn't be tough at all.</div>In my opinion, the sixers could low-ball the bucks for a while. Everybody knows he isn't going to play in Milwaukee and that they want to trade him badly, so Milwaukee would be lucky to get anything of equal talent in return for Yi.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dmoney @ Jul 20 2007, 11:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Serge what the hell is a hard beat, it's a heart beat your grammar sucks, but why would you want to trade Andre Miller he is what makes the team go, he's the straw that stirs the drink without Miller y'all would probably have a bad season next yr.</div>First of all he is the reason we did not get a new face for out team in Oden/Durant, and it is actually not a good thing.And 2nd for the love of god we are REBUILDING young guys need to start, and get a lot of time so we can see what they can really do. That is why we traded AI, and gave Webber away for free. Think about it there is no point to start a 31 year old same age as AI when we need to develope younger guys. Miller is blocking Williams progress I have no idea why it is so hard to understand. I just hope they trade him before the deadline atleast.We don't need Miller teams that are winning not rebuilding need Miller. If we doing this why did we not just rebuild around AI if you going to keep a 31 year old anyway to keep from younger guys getting more time. And AI atleast is not just a normal player he a super star.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (time takes time @ Jul 20 2007, 11:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>oh yeah and what are you basing this on? summer league maybe? did you also take into account that he gets dominated by stronger players than him? He can't play on the blocks. Pau Gasol is a bad comparison.bottom line, not worth it to trade a sure-fire veteran like Andre Miller for a project like Yi. especially if miller is your only veteran.</div>It would not be worth it if we were winning now trying to win. But we are REBUILDING why did we trade AI then? Exactly for younger guys to get time Williams should start we would really get to see if he can become what we need or not. Why keep a 31 year or 30 w/e the age is when we are rebuilding? Then there was no point to trade Iverson.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Serge @ Jul 21 2007, 01:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>First of all he is the reason we did not get a new face for out team in Oden/Durant, and it is actually not a good thing.And 2nd for the love of god we are REBUILDING young guys need to start, and get a lot of time so we can see what they can really do. That is why we traded AI, and gave Webber away for free. Think about it there is no point to start a 31 year old same age as AI when we need to develope younger guys. Miller is blocking Williams progress I have no idea why it is so hard to understand. I just hope they trade him before the deadline atleast.We don't need Miller teams that are winning not rebuilding need Miller. If we doing this why did we not just rebuild around AI if you going to keep a 31 year old anyway to keep from younger guys getting more time. And AI atleast is not just a normal player he a super star.It would not be worth it if we were winning now trying to win. But we are REBUILDING why did we trade AI then? Exactly for younger guys to get time Williams should start we would really get to see if he can become what we need or not. Why keep a 31 year or 30 w/e the age is when we are rebuilding? Then there was no point to trade Iverson.</div>oh my god. you're saying you want to get rid of Andre Miller because he won you games, which caused you to not have the worst record in the league and get a great player in the draft. give me a break! and it is apparent that you are rebuilding, but even teams that are rebuilding NEED VETERANS. a team with a bunch of talented but inexperienced youngsters will go NOWHERE. and who would you be giving time at pg? louis williams? he'll already be getting enough for an unproven 20 year old. If you traded Miller you would have no one to effectively run the point. face it, williams is not ready to play full time yet. and don't give me that summer league line. John Lucas III was the mvp last year, and where did that get him?why did you not do this around ai? umm, is that a joke? because ai was a star in the league, he had been carrying the team for years, he's a completely different kind of player, a scorer, he had a bad relation with billy king, and he wanted out. I don't care what he said to the media, he didn't want to be in a losing situation.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (time takes time @ Jul 21 2007, 02:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>oh my god. you're saying you want to get rid of Andre Miller because he won you games, which caused you to not have the worst record in the league and get a great player in the draft. give me a break! and it is apparent that you are rebuilding, but even teams that are rebuilding NEED VETERANS. a team with a bunch of talented but inexperienced youngsters will go NOWHERE. and who would you be giving time at pg? louis williams? he'll already be getting enough for an unproven 20 year old. If you traded Miller you would have no one to effectively run the point. face it, williams is not ready to play full time yet. and don't give me that summer league line. John Lucas III was the mvp last year, and where did that get him?why did you not do this around ai? umm, is that a joke? because ai was a star in the league, he had been carrying the team for years, he's a completely different kind of player, a scorer, he had a bad relation with billy king, and he wanted out. I don't care what he said to the media, he didn't want to be in a losing situation.</div> BINGO.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Lefty @ Jul 18 2007, 01:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But why get owned in a trade just to get rid of Yi?They could get alot better.</div>I agree...Even if Yi refuses to play in Milwaukee, he is still going to have a pretty high stock. They especially wouldnt have to give up Yi and then some for a player like Carney...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (time takes time @ Jul 21 2007, 03:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>oh my god. you're saying you want to get rid of Andre Miller because he won you games, which caused you to not have the worst record in the league and get a great player in the draft. give me a break! and it is apparent that you are rebuilding, but even teams that are rebuilding NEED VETERANS. a team with a bunch of talented but inexperienced youngsters will go NOWHERE. and who would you be giving time at pg? louis williams? he'll already be getting enough for an unproven 20 year old. If you traded Miller you would have no one to effectively run the point. face it, williams is not ready to play full time yet. and don't give me that summer league line. John Lucas III was the mvp last year, and where did that get him?why did you not do this around ai? umm, is that a joke? because ai was a star in the league, he had been carrying the team for years, he's a completely different kind of player, a scorer, he had a bad relation with billy king, and he wanted out. I don't care what he said to the media, he didn't want to be in a losing situation.</div>You don't know what AI wanted either you think you know.And again check how the Bulls did it all young. And again Williams will never get enough time to proov him self until he get's the starting minutes.Ow Yeah and YI will be awsome.
