Next bargain-bin player?

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  1. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

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    Are you implying he's taken steroids and had disastrous plastic surgery?
     
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    The Raptors' Matt Thomas would be another good target, but I bet they want to keep him:
     
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    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Love picking up players just good enough to keep us in purgatory
     
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    So you'd rather we were really bad so that we can get lottery picks and select more players like your fave Zach Collins?
     
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    I'm sick of Olshey, but in this area you are short-changing him

    when talking about the bargain-bin and players other teams were looking to dump, off the top of my head:

    Steve Blake
    Eric Maynor
    Mo Williams (is the BAE a bargain-bin move?)
    Robin Lopez
    Thomas Robinson
    Brian Roberts
    Mo Harkless
    Mason Plumlee
    Jusuf Nurkic
    Shabazz Napier
    Skal
    Nic Stauskas
    Seth Curry
    Hezonja
    Tolliver
    Melo

    I'd also consider the 2nd round of the draft a bargain-bin of sorts: Allen Crabbe, Pat Connaughton, Jake Layman, Gary Trent are all 'successes'

    now, some of these weren't good moves. TRob essentially cost 4 second round picks. Stauskas, Hezonja, and Tolliver were busts. Crabbe was a disaster because of the matched offer sheet. Curry was a bargain but that bargain kept Portland from re-signing him

    but yeah, when another team is looking to dump a player, Olshey is often first in line
     
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    Or pick lower and get guys like Swanigan
     
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    I’ve always liked Jake Router.
     
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    So according to you it shouldn't matter what we do.
     
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    jay crowder, say it 3 times FAST
     
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    I wasn't talking about just getting players that way, I was talking about getting USEFUL players. Of your list I will grant you RoLo, Shabazz and Curry. I don't count Nurk because I don't see him as a "cast-off" because they really liked him but realized he and Jokic didn't work together. And the draft is a separate issue.
     
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    Ah. I'd be surprised if Miami let him go after turning him into a useful player again.
     
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    Dame was a pretty nice lottery pick. So was McCollum.

    Again, I’ll take the better opportunity to draft the best player, rather than be decent enough to make the playoffs
     
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    So you'd rather be Sacramento than Toronto, Miami or Dallas. Got it.
     
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    Love me some straw man.

    And Dallas, really?
     
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    We should go after that Lebron dude, he's old and a Laker but he could still give us a few minutes coming off the bench.
     
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    Well, you kind of invite it with your constant moaning. You started off by complaining about getting cheap players that would improve the team. Really?

    Fair point, given Doncic. I was thinking about all the years they rebuilt year after year without going into the lottery.
    And don't forget, getting cheap players and developing them is a way of getting assets that can be TRADED for lottery picks. That's essentially how we got the pick that turned into Roy. And we moved up a few places to get Aldridge instead of whatsisname who went to the Bulls and was out of the league in short order by throwing in Khryapa, who was taken in the 20s.
     
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    We can't keep returning to that Sacramento well, surely. (Although that reminds me of a player we'd all failed to mention so far as an example of Olshey's dumpster-diving - Wenyen Gabriel.)
     
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