OT Daryl Morey stepping down as Rockets GM

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by BigGameDamian, Oct 15, 2020.

  1. RR7

    RR7 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2008
    Messages:
    17,596
    Likes Received:
    11,213
    Trophy Points:
    113
    But it's then fair to have those thoughts about Stotts and olshey?
     
    calvin natt and Pinwheel1 like this.
  2. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2008
    Messages:
    30,244
    Likes Received:
    22,997
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I think the idea is that our results have not been nearly as good as the rockets, championship or otherwise.
     
    AmirIcon and Buffalo Custard like this.
  3. RR7

    RR7 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2008
    Messages:
    17,596
    Likes Received:
    11,213
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I think most around the league would say harden is better than Dame. I think most would say paul/Westbrook is better than CJ. So I think one would expect them to have a minor bit of more success. But morey has failed to build a good enough team around harden to get them over the hump. And moving Paul for Westbrook made it worse. Similar to complaints about olshey failing to get us over the hump with dame. An extra series win or two still has them on the same treadmill people whine about us being on.

    Grass is always greener...
     
    calvin natt likes this.
  4. Pinwheel1

    Pinwheel1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2008
    Messages:
    21,008
    Likes Received:
    13,564
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Exactly. There are certain cities that have a built-in advantage when it comes to free agency. The same reason why it makes sense for some teams to blow it up (i.e the Lakers) and stupid for other teams to do so. GM's benefit from this.
     
  5. blazerkor

    blazerkor Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2014
    Messages:
    13,909
    Likes Received:
    14,825
    Trophy Points:
    113
    What's funny is I'm pretty sure Olshey and Stotts got us to the Western Conference Finals and everyone in here acts like we're a lottery team. The truth is maybe I would want Morey and D'Antoni over Olshey and Stotts but I'll opt for answer C. None of the above. None of them seem to value defense and fit, they're all about offense and shiny toys. They also all seem to be gimmicky and not well rounded. D'Antoni runs teams in a way that has proven to win better in the regular season than the playoffs, Stotts plays his starters way too much all of the time and therefore never has a bench to rely on in case of injuries or in game slumps and neither guy gives a shit about defense. Morey likes flashy players and "changing the game" to the point that he might just opt for a square wheel, Olshey falls in love with "his guys" and never optimizes trade value and neither guy gives a shit about the way rosters fit together to compliment each other.
     
    RR7 likes this.
  6. lawai'a

    lawai'a Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2013
    Messages:
    2,677
    Likes Received:
    2,694
    Trophy Points:
    113
    the dwight howard/harden pairing certainly left a lot to be desired.
     
    riverman likes this.
  7. RR7

    RR7 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2008
    Messages:
    17,596
    Likes Received:
    11,213
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Agreed on option C.
    It is funny how it always seems a lot of people come up with excuses as to why we're lucky in anything successful we do(little success that there is), and how unlucky other teams are in their failures. But never seem to work the opposite.
     
  8. Buffalo Custard

    Buffalo Custard Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2020
    Messages:
    1,409
    Likes Received:
    1,413
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It is funny how some Blazer fans will (grudgingly) admit Olshey and Stotts may not be the best GM and coach in history, but they always have an excuse why every other GM and coach are worse.
     
  9. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2008
    Messages:
    30,244
    Likes Received:
    22,997
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Well he also made the moves to get Harden, and Paul. So that's less of a strike against him imo.
     
  10. KSF-ERIC

    KSF-ERIC Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2019
    Messages:
    8,659
    Likes Received:
    6,450
    Trophy Points:
    113
    What big name free agents have Houston landed in the last 10 years? Dwight Howard? Anyone else?
     
    Phatguysrule likes this.
  11. GDiama

    GDiama Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2016
    Messages:
    1,565
    Likes Received:
    1,398
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It was all worth it. I hope we could ever get that close but I doubt that happens. In same scenario last season we were destroyed by the Warriors, we had no chance. Houston was the better team and had bad luck.
     
  12. GDiama

    GDiama Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2016
    Messages:
    1,565
    Likes Received:
    1,398
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Isn't it normal then that he pays more money for Harden+Westbrook compared to us with Lillard+CJ? I say both teams are in bad salary situations. At least one of them is trying to get better. The other one just hopes Zach and Ant will become basketball players.

    he is not the best GM in the business, but he is certainly better than our GM.

    Btw they have a 1st round pick in 21,22 and 23.
     
    Buffalo Custard likes this.
  13. handiman

    handiman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    5,503
    Likes Received:
    3,612
    Trophy Points:
    113
    First thought: Dame is as loyal as they come. Morey is as far from that as anyone I can think of. Somehow, I don't see Dame being on board with that.

    Second thought: People cry foul over our small back court. Morey pushed the micro-ball lineup...
     
  14. wizenheimer

    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2008
    Messages:
    20,715
    Likes Received:
    32,575
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I really really want Olshey fired

    that said, about the only quality Morey has that I'd like in the new GM is the willingness to take risks. But taking risks needs to at least have a reasonable chance of success. Harden + Westbrook? That was like putting a rat and a snake in a shoebox
     
    Phatguysrule likes this.
  15. blazerkor

    blazerkor Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2014
    Messages:
    13,909
    Likes Received:
    14,825
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Dame being so loyal is why we need a GM that makes the hard calls, not one that gets attached to players that don't fit together. Dame has said it was hard every time a teammate has been traded and except for Afflalo who he didn't really have time to, Dame has connected with everyone brought on board, a lot of times becoming even closer to the new additions than he was to his previous teammate that he was incredibly close and loyal to. I believe Dame is a lot more malleable and a lot less rigid than most in here characterize him as being. If a trade is made and it improves this team, Dame is going to be good with it and move forward trying to forge new relationships with whoever comes in. I really think that applies to CJ as well. Dame is the kind of person that looks at everything as an opportunity and new challenge to prove himself. That being said, I think a team needs more stability than Morey tends to give and I'd rather have a less gimmicky but still forward thinking GM.
     
  16. Orion Bailey

    Orion Bailey Forum Troll

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2015
    Messages:
    26,285
    Likes Received:
    21,506
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No Thanks...
     
  17. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2008
    Messages:
    13,222
    Likes Received:
    11,305
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Tempting... If for no other reason than I miss making moves. And he's proven that he can remain competitive while doing it.
     
  18. calvin natt

    calvin natt Confeve

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2017
    Messages:
    7,520
    Likes Received:
    10,457
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland Suburb
    Not a Morey fan. He took huge risks which is fine, like it actually. But I absolutely HATE watching Houston. They pass 0-1 times and jack a three. Thats not innovative to me. And they have had really good talent and no Finals appearances. Yes, it was during GS domination, I get that. But going small-ball and launching threes is never going to win you a title.
     
  19. Blazers Roy

    Blazers Roy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2015
    Messages:
    2,621
    Likes Received:
    2,909
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Jerusalem, Israel
    People actually think that, Morey, a numbers guy, was the one who decided to go after Westbrook...
     
    Buffalo Custard likes this.

Share This Page