OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting

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  1. wizenheimer

    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

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    so? there's no flu or hypertension in Germany?

    in order to prove your argument you'd need to contrast US Covid comorbidity with Germany and Canada and South Korea. Not only that, you'd need to analyze the deaths in each nation categorized by attributed comorbidity. Then calculate the differences in terms of overall mortality. It might be an interesting project, but it would be massive

    short of that, a radical idea is that if 95% of the people in Germany and Canada and South Korea accept that mask-wearing and social-distancing are important and adhere to the rules, while only 60% of US people do, that's going to have a much bigger impact than fat. And if Germany, Canada, & South Korea have extensive testing and tracking infrastructures (which they do), and we do not, that's going to have significant impact

    when Obama left, the US had a pandemic response infrastructure in place. Trump destroyed it, just like he's destroyed the reputation of the CDC and sidelined it. All while lying about the danger of the pandemic and pushing big parts of the country into dangerous policies based upon those lies. And far too many people believe his stupid deadly bullshit and act on it
     
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    No doubt a person with health problems is more likely to succumb to Coronavirus, but young healthy people have died as well.

    Other developed countries also have people with health problems but not the US death and infection rates.

    These countries probably have fewer unhealthy people since they all have national health care. If Coat Hanger Coney provided the fifth vote to take health care away from 20 million Americans, look for death rate to go even higher.
     
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  3. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    I believe there are multiple strains out there, which is why the reaction to it is so varied.
     
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    In the 60 minutes interview he said we are testing the second most in the world (after India). Is this true?
     
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    trumps always wants to jabber about totals when the reality is that testing per capita is the best gauge:

    tests/million:

    3 Andorra 1,778,159
    4 Luxembourg 1,545,867
    7 UAE 1,219,201
    8 Iceland 975,562
    9 Bahrain 965,539
    10 Denmark 820,343
    15 Singapore 594,471
    16 Hong Kong 477,273
    17 Israel 472,677
    18 UK 453,103
    19 USA 391,139
    21 Russia 381,517
    22 Belgium 369,430

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

    next, you need to look at the rates of viral and antibody tests. Last I read, the US was using antibody tests a lot more than other countries and those are not only less reliable, they don't necessarily identify active infections
     
  6. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    It might be that the obesity related death rate is not linear with respect to the extent of the obesity.
     
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    UK researchers have developed a new risk prediction tool that estimates a person’s chance of hospitalisation and death from Covid-19.

    The algorithm, which was constructed using data from more than eight million people across England, uses key factors such as age, ethnicity and body mass index to help identify individuals in the UK at risk of developing severe illness.

    The research, published in The BMJ, was put together by a team of scientists across the UK, and has been praised for the depth and accuracy of its findings.

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/health/me...alisation-and-death-from-covid-19/ar-BB1afb86
     
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    meanwhile Kate Brown announced that skating rinks and bowling could open
     
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    Went to the gym today first time in 3 months. Equipment spread apart, must wear mask, clean equipment. They have sessions that you make reservations for with a 1/2 hour between to scrub down everything.
     
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    Just reported Trump disbanded federal vaccine safety office last year. Who needs it?
     
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    From the NYT article: "An H.H.S. spokesperson said that the vaccine office was not shuttered. “The office was not ‘closed,’ but was merged with the Office of Infectious Disease and HIV/AIDS Policy and was strengthened,” the spokesperson said in a statement. “All the functions continue in this new organizational structure.”

    Obviously, I don't have any knowledge of the truth of the matter, but it's awfully close to election day to take many of these OMG articles seriously.
     
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    Nothing matters anymore. Just need to wait and hope vaccine and treatments like this Remdesivir or whatever it’s called. America isn’t going to do it any other way. Take care of yourself and your family, you’re on your own until meds work. Too many idiots and awful leadership.
     
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    rounding the corner on Covid, trump style

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    Merging one group into another is exactly how you get rid of it.
     
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    Idaho hospitals are so full doctors are sending patients to Seattle and Portland. In one Idaho county the health commissioners removed the mask mandate by a 3-2 vote. Two members said people have the right to choose, unless they are pregnant women, while the third said what all these people have isn't Coronavirus.
     
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  19. UncleCliffy'sDaddy

    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    I am sooooooooooooooooo doomed..........
     
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