Murdering Michael Vick

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ Jul 27 2007, 11:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>They dont shoot pigs in the head, that would be clearly evident ed by the picture I posted. As a matter of fact, they shoot the dogs so what was your point?</div>You're still justifying murder, so what's your point?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (7Goat @ Jul 27 2007, 01:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You're still justifying murder, so what's your point?</div>Im not justifying murder at all, my point is they are both one in the same. This thread is in neither offense or defense to m-vick but to reflect on yourself before you hang another man for the same crime you commit obliviously day to day without even realizing.
     
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    You guys are f*cking idiots. Actually defending Michael Vick and saying it's the same thing as hunting.You can have your dogfighting and Michael Vick orgy without me.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Captain @ Jul 27 2007, 01:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You guys are f*cking idiots. Actually defending Michael Vick and saying it's the same thing as hunting.You can have your dogfighting and Michael Vick orgy without me.</div> Im not defending, all im saying is that we as a society are too hypocritical and do not realize that we also kill animals, who liek all humans have a right to live. I think what Vick did is screwed up, I just believe society sees this too harshly and we fail to realize that we inpart also kill animals, and no matter how "humane" it is it is still wrong
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tmgbball15 @ Jul 27 2007, 12:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Im not defending, all im saying is that we as a society are too hypocritical and do not realize that we also kill animals, who liek all humans have a right to live. I think what Vick did is screwed up, I just believe society sees this too harshly and we fail to realize that we inpart also kill animals, and no matter how "humane" it is it is still wrong</div>THE f*cking POINT IS THAT WE DON'T TAKE THE COW, BEAT IT, AND THEN FORCE IT TO TRY AND MAUL ANOTHER COW! THEN AFTERWARDS, THE FARMER DOESN'T GO AND DROWN OR ELECTROCUTE THE COW IF IT LOSES!YOU DON'T SEE A FARMER STEALING SOMEONE'S PET, AND USING IT SO HIS FIGHTER CAN TRAIN BY MAULING AND KILLING IT WHILE IT CAN'T FIGHT BACK!!The idiocracy in this damn thread is overwhelming. Have some f*cking common sense for heavens sake.
     
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    Killing is not right in any form but humans kill certain animals to provide food for people; dogs are man's best friend and they should NEVER be humanely killed. Vick risked the lives of these dogs on fights and if they didn't perform he and his buds would grusemly kill them (electrocute, drown, shoot, and rape female dogs) . I don't give a F*ck what animal it is, if anyone kills an animal in any of those ways its just disgusting.I don't understand how anyone can actually defend these fools..
     
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    I agree with you, PrimeTime. Eating animals should be illegal.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kingjamez @ Jul 27 2007, 01:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Killing is not right in any form but humans kill certain animals to provide food for people; dogs are man's best friend and they should NEVER be humanely killed. Vick risked the lives of these dogs on fights and if they didn't perform he and his buds would grusemly kill them (electrocute, drown, shoot, and rape female dogs) . I don't give a F*ck what animal it is, if anyone kills an animal in any of those ways its just disgusting.I don't understand how anyone can actually defend these fools..</div>Im not defending them holly sh*t all im saying is that we also have to realize that we also kill animals and the actions should not be seen as harshly as some do cause we also take action in the murdering of animals. Vick deserves jail time, but we have to undersatnd that despite thsi being grusome and morally wrong, society also kills
     
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    Society does kill, and most of the time its for a means of food. We do not bet on an animal to kill another animal and then if the animal doesn't perform, kill it in an awful manner.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kingjamez @ Jul 27 2007, 01:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Society does kill, and most of the time its for a means of food. We do not bet on an animal to kill another animal and then if the animal doesn't perform, kill it in an awful manner.</div>Ok and im not excusing his actiosn all im saying is that it saddens me as a society that Vick killing dogs is getting more publicity than he would have had he killed his gf or something. I understand what you mean, all im saying is that the killing of animals is wrong no matter what teh circumstances, that when ist for food at leats there is a valid reason, im not denying it, but society needs to lay off teh guy a little, the crime although wrons is not as bad as some make it out to be
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Captain @ Jul 27 2007, 09:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It's humane to shoot it in the head rather than gouge it's eyes out and take a knife and spit it's stomach open while it's still alive.Of course it's not humane to kill something, but if you have to kill it do it humanely.Ya dig?</div>Also, when you eat meant you don't get enjoyment of of torturing the animals and watching them hurt eachother. It's not a "sport" to you when you're eating, it's filling your body with the 5 main food groups and staying healthy. [​IMG]
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tmgbball15 @ Jul 27 2007, 10:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ok and im not excusing his actiosn all im saying is that it saddens me as a society that Vick killing dogs is getting more publicity than he would have had he killed his gf or something. I understand what you mean, all im saying is that the killing of animals is wrong no matter what teh circumstances, that when ist for food at leats there is a valid reason, im not denying it, but society needs to lay off teh guy a little, the crime although wrons is not as bad as some make it out to be</div>I'm sure if he killed his GF that would get plenty of news time. [​IMG] Definitely more news time. And he'd be in jail for a much longer time.Hey, fast food places such as Wendy's don't treat the animals well, but the good people at Chipotle: <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Most pigs do not spend their lives on open pastures, but live in Concentrated Animal Feed Operations, or CAFOs. The conditions in a CAFO are bad, even horrendous. In many ways, they look more like factories than farms. Pigs are crowded so closely with other pigs that they must be given antibiotics from a young age to avoid the spread of infection. According to the Union of Concerned Scientists, American pork producers use 10 million pounds of antibiotics per year to keep their confinement raised pigs from getting sick. That?s more than an estimated three times the amount used to treat all human illnesses. Pigs raised in these "factory farm" conditions, about 95 percent of all of the pigs raised in this country, often don't even have room to turn around in their crates, let alone experience the outdoors. It's stressful and inhumane for them, and it's surely not healthy for us either. We think there's a better way to do things.It's called old-fashioned animal husbandry, which means farmers rely on care, not chemicals, to tend their animals and their land. Pigs raised in this way are not given antibiotics, and their feed does not contain animal by-products. They are free to roam the pasture, to root in deeply bedded barns, and to socialize with other pigs.We believe pigs that are cared for in this way enjoy happier, healthier lives and produce the best pork we've ever tasted. We call pork produced according to these standards naturally raised, and sourcing it for our restaurants is part of a larger mission we've dubbed Food With Integrity, an ongoing quest to source the highest quality food from farmers who care deeply about the welfare of their animals, their land, and their communities. Since 2001, all of the pork served in our restaurants has been from pigs raised in this humane, ecologically sustainable way. In addition to all of our pork, nearly 60 percent of our chicken and more than 40 percent of our beef is naturally raised. And we'll continue until all of our meats in all of our restaurants meet this standard.Once again, naturally raised pork at Chipotle means:? No antibiotics, ever. ? Letting pigs exhibit their natural behaviors in open pasture or deeply-bedded pens.? Vegetarian feed with no animal by-products.Video | Our friend Paul Willis on raising pigs. Courtesy of Blank Park Zoo, Des Moines IAVideo | The Pig Picture. Courtesy of The Humane Farming Association (www.hfa.org). The use of this video does not constitute an endorsement of Chipotle Mexican Grill by the Humane Farming Association.Here are some of our suppliers for naturally raised pork:</div>Go Chipotle! [​IMG]
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Ok and im not excusing his actiosn all im saying is that it saddens me as a society that Vick killing dogs is getting more publicity than he would have had he killed his gf or something.</div>OJ Simpson?
     
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    I think there's a difference between raising animals for food, where they are killed within seconds, and raising dogs to savagely attack eachother for pure entertainment. It's illegal to dog fight, Michael Vick knew this, it shouldn't be justified by comparing to the meat industry.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ Jul 27 2007, 02:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>OJ Simpson?</div>Alright bad example, but Im just trying to say that this issue is being blown up too much and is being treated as if it were a real person<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Jul 27 2007, 02:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think there's a difference between raising animals for food, where they are killed within seconds, and raising dogs to savagely attack eachother for pure entertainment. It's illegal to dog fight, Michael Vick knew this, it shouldn't be justified by comparing to the meat industry.</div> Im not comparing it, all im saying is that we also kill animals, and no matter what the reason killing is morally wrong. Thats all im trying to say, not trying to excuse Vick
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tmgbball15 @ Jul 27 2007, 12:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ok and im not excusing his actiosn all im saying is that it saddens me as a society that Vick killing dogs is getting more publicity than he would have had he killed his gf or something.</div> You weren't around during the Ray Carruth incident were you?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tmgbball15 @ Jul 27 2007, 01:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>not comparing it, all im saying is that we also kill animals, and no matter what the reason killing is morally wrong.</div> Since when is it morally wrong to kill animals for food?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Jul 27 2007, 02:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You weren't around during the Ray Carruth incident were you?</div>I dont know if I knew english back then, I had just gotten to the Us, so I don't know if im correct but was he the guy who got sent to jail for conspiring to kill his gf?<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Jul 27 2007, 02:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Since when is it morally wrong to kill animals for food?</div>Killing as a whole is wrong IMO, no matter for what reason
     
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    If I had no food I would kill any animal I could get my hands on..
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tmgbball15 @ Jul 27 2007, 02:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Killing as a whole is wrong IMO, no matter for what reason</div>Humans. Need. Food.Native Americans sure didn't think it was wrong. You need some protein in you. If we don't kill to eat, then there will be an overpopulation of all kinds of animals, which is dangerous and they'll end up dieing anyway because there's no food for THEM to eat.It's all part of nature.
     

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