OT Trump Administration Executes Brandon Bernard After Jurors Plead For His Life

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  1. Chris Craig

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    I meant your reasoning behind saying both Dems and Republicans have executed prisoners over time
     
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    what I meant was throughout history in this country both parties have sent people to their death for crimes. Nothing more, I wasn't covering for republicans or dems like it was implied incorrectly.
     
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    Being an asshole isn't against the rules so... Yeah I can... STFU telling me how to respond. And newsflash, you don't know me. Ask anyone who knows me from this forum personally about me. To know me is to love me and if you don't then something is wrong with you and that's a fact. And yes, your post reeks of privilege but it mainly reeks of white fragility. Look inward when you try to figure that out.
     
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    You got me there.
     
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    You still don't get it. First off there has not been prison reform. Understand this clearly. Secondly the topic was about a black man being killed in the lame duck a four-year lame duck president. This same lame duck is going to be executing the first woman in decades. Within the last 20 years conservatives have been responsible for the vast majority of executions in this country. Yet for some reason you want to deflect against that. And then you act stupid when you say you don't understand why. It's how conservatives typically operate. With zero logic whatsoever. There's only one reason why you would have brought up Democrats in that situation when Democrats have been historically against capital punishment for at least the last 20 years.
     
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    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    I'm melanated too, my man. [​IMG]
     
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    I have a shirt for them FB_IMG_1595467498560.jpg
     
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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    I think he is acting like a grownup. Grownups in the 1960s did and said a lot of the things that dviss has said and done. dviss walks the walk by taking part in peaceful protests and giving talks. Calling expressed anger "not acting like a grownup" is absolutely condescending, when that anger is perfectly justified.

    And yes, your post still has all the markers of white privilege. You're right that I have no idea what color your skin actually is, but your sentiments sound exactly like the types of things unaware white people say. Non-white people sometimes echo the same sentiments and they're just as unaware no matter your skin tone.
     
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    My bad.
     
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    You dont get it, go back and read my original statement that wasn't even directed at you. I wasn't singling out dems as you say I was. And please dont refer to my post as stupid.
     
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    I see, but none of his posts are in anyway condescending? The anger at that poster was not justified. But he's right, I shouldn't tell him how to act, I can only suggest to act like a decent human being.

    What a load of bullshit. Whatever, carry on, I shouldn't have even gotten involved.
     
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    Your post was stupid, unnecessary, and factually obsolete.
     
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    You don't speak kindly to the people that unwittingly work to keep this racist system in place. :dunno:

    These are some of the same people that have been saying "Fuck your feelings" the past 4 years.
     
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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    I think what you're not understanding and is causing all this static is that your comment diminishes and waters down the current event. It's like reacting to a horrible murder with "Yeah, well, lots of people have been killed over the years." That's technically true, but practically useless, information. So sure, both parties have contributed to executions but how is that important right now? That doesn't bear on this at all, it gives off a sense of "Everyone does this, let's move on."

    It's also subtly misleading because it implicitly equates the two parties when Democrats have traditionally been a lot less focused on executions and, as someone else showed in a chart, today Democrats are far less supportive of execution than Republicans.

    I don't believe you intended to put across these sentiments, but that's how your post came across to a lot of people. Whether that matters to you is up to you, but I thought I'd let you know because you seemed confused by the push-back.
     
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    Totally agree, just didn't think the poster was doing that. Believe it or not I generally like your posts, just seemed over the top this time. Again, shouldn't have gotten involved.
     
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    You still don't get it. Picking up your toys and leaving the argument about racism...

    Is SPECIFICALLY a privilege enjoyed by white people.

    As tired as I am of speaking about this, I simply don't have the luxury...
     
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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    If you think that anger at someone who was trying to be provocative about what sure seems like a racially-motivated execution by our President was "not justified" then I don't think you're very good at judging these things, which is a reason why you should stay out of the judging game, yeah.
     
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    This was my thought on the post as well. Couldn't have said it better.
     
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    Im not sure why you are so judgmental and come across like a know it all, easily, with people. I understand and support what you are standing for but to act like jerk in your no hold barred manor is outright disrespectful, I never attacked you or your comments. I have friends of all races including many black friends, that also stand up for equality and respect in powerful ways, but they dont have to use ridicule and anger to get their points across and we have a brotherhood thats fantastic. We have have earned each others respect. You've lost mine.
     
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    As in it gets smaller or as in we need a psychiatrist up in here
     

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