The stats don't back that up. If you go off PER, Kanter, CJ, and Dame are the three best players on our team.
Not trying to start an argument but please refrain from making any assumptions using the +- stat. Right above this you have PER which has him at 5th on the team right under Nurk who isn't available. Even PER has it's issues but it's way way better than a +- stat by every stretch of the imagination.
The +- chart has Blevins at 6th on the team. Please tell me people don't actually create opinions using this stat?
it is like a lot of these metrics. They shouldn't be used as real gauges until 25-30 games are played furthermore, the +/- (or BPM, PER, etc) for a 30 min/game starter should not be graded against that of an 18 min/game backup. You also need to adjust for rotations and lineups
I don’t go off PER. And my point is a simple one: Melo outperforms DJJ and RoCo combined and he “scores” - can’t say that about DJJ nor RoCo. it’s halftime and DJJ and RoCo have combined for FIVE points! We won’t win games and we will continually fall behind with starting forwards that can’t score!
I hate that I'm even in this thread...but Nurk's injury has gotten me feeling negative...feeling like I don't understand how we have Terry coaching this team, Jordan commentating, Brook goofing off, the Outsider guy's stupid bicep shirts...Melo's shot selection, the lack of defense, the stagnant offense...I'm melting down...
...and? Your point? Are you just fact-finding with PER? I’m arguing that Melo as a starter would be more effective than DJJ or RoCo - neither score and we simply won’t win like this. If only CJ and Dame score aside from another 10-12 out of the Center position and 10-12 out of our two starting forwards...you think our PER will beat the opponent? So much for PER
no...I replied to a poster suggesting we keep Melo on the bench the last 10 minutes of each game so he will want to leave... and the previous posts were bashing Melo (generally speaking). ** I’m getting very little argument about my primary point: RoCo and DJJ as starters will NOT translate into wins!
So PER rankings for 2020-2021: CJ Kanter Dame Nurk Melo... so he’s 5th and higher than either DJJ or RoCo according to ESPN. Do I have it right?
If you go off PER, Elleby is better than GTJ. PER isn't everything. Doesn't account for Melo's elite D and clutch shot making.
I don't know why you keep talking to me about DJJ and RoCo.... I never said a word to you about either of those players.
I wouldn't call it "Elite" by any means but you have to admit he has played better defense in the last few games. I think he does better at center? Just from what i see.