Politics The Kamala Harris Thread

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  1. Road Ratt

    Road Ratt King of my own little world

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    There is nothing political about the Blazers. But you were on a good line of thought.
     
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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    In the same vein as, "How 'bout dem Yankees!" ;)
     
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    Hey I was going to make this thread!

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    This graphic is shocking. I mean, you know these things, but seeing it like this is something else altogether.
     
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    Sorry, your exact word was illogical. Point still holds.

    I have some things to say and am not good at one finger typing. I'll have time to use computer tomorrow while the bread rises.
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Based on what?
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    So, just trying to get this right. Your position is that she will sell us out much like any other Dem or Republican?
     
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  8. Road Ratt

    Road Ratt King of my own little world

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    That wasn't quite what you quoted was about, but ok.

    My position is, they have already sold us out or they wouldn't be where they are now.
     
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    Then I don't disagree. But it's a huge improvement over Trump.
     
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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    I'd sell all of you out if I could be president.

    #GreaterGood
     
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    selling you out was how I retired...the deep state pays well for dog snitches
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    dog snitches get bitches?

    barfo
     
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  13. Voodoo

    Voodoo An American hero

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    @Road Ratt I want to give you some information that may help you understand why the government works the way it does. Look at the data, it's pretty clear there is a rural skew that benefits republicans and by default their priorities because of the way the system works.
    • 16 of the most populous states represent 68% of the US population, but they control only 32% of the senate.
    • 34 of the least populous states represent 32% of the the US population, but they control 68% of the senate.
    • A senator from California represents 68 times as many people as a senator from the least populous state, Wyoming, yet both states have the same number of senators apportioned to them.
    A state such as Wyoming skews much more heavily white, conservative, and rural. States like these have an outsized influence on national priorities and national politics, it makes no sense. It's not that American's are ignorant, or blind, or anything else. It's that a minority of the population has a way outsized influence and control on our politics, and as such policies that the majority want just are not implemented.

    Basically up until right now, Republicans got what they wanted, and Democratic priorities such as minimum wage, the stimulus package, or whatever else that may actually help Americans, are snuffed out by the minority party. This was the case even though they represented a minority of Americans. Even a cursory bit of research will show you that without a shadow of a doubt that Democrats favor these priorities. You can prove it based on their voting records. Because Republicans vote pretty much unanimously against these types of policies though, especially in the Senate, they fail. To state Democrats and Republicans are both selling out the country is an incorrect interpretation of the events when the data proves it otherwise.

    There is overwhelming evidence that Democrats are opposed to privatized prisons with slave labor, and Republicans favor them. And again, as for minimum wage the last time it was raised was in 2009 when Democrats had a trifecta in control of all three branches of government, and Republicans have unanimously voted against it each time sense. The evidence clearly and overwhelming states you are either misunderstanding, misconstruing, or willfully misleading others to try and make an argument that both parties are the same when that is objectively false. Now mind you when I am saying 'Republican' or 'Democrat' I am talking about politicians, not ordinary citizenry necessarily just to be clear.

    Another way of measuring things is the number of criminal indictments by party for the most recent past administrations from 1970 to 2017. I can't find accurate data for this beyond 2017, but keep in mind from 2017-2020 this was a Republican administration.

    Federal level criminal indictments by administration from 1970-2017:

    Republicans - 124
    Democrats - 3

    Mind you this doesn't include the indictments from the Trump administration, we'll have to wait and see how many his administration ends up with, but it's already well on its way to 100 with some of the data I have seen. To state the parties are the same is just objectively false, one party is full of crooks, liars, and cronies, and the other isn't, it's really just that simple.
     
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    Aside from the overt dog whistle racism and sexism laden within this meme, even if this were true, this is still a better setup than having Trump as president. Like what cockamamie crap were the creators of this meme thinking? "If only people really knew it is Kamalamala that is running the show, then they would vote for Trump." -- Um no, I would still vote the way I did, every time.
     
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    That is a reverse contribution, indeed. He was that politician that once you saw him, you knew he was from the dark side. A perfect match for Nixon.
     
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    Riv. That is true. However, there is a percentage of population that needs someone else to make decisions for them such as those who stormed the Capitol building. Those that did not commit to criminal actions, used common sense and somehow gathered self respect, eventually realizing it was their own actions that demonstrated their filter of truth. They would not vote for Trump (again).
     
  17. Road Ratt

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    Yes, I have already seen the statistics you posted in a video I have watched before.

    The problem for me is. Bill Clinton helped to privatize prisons and then signed a bill to lengthen prison sentences so prisoners would spend more time in jail. So, as I see it, Bill directly helped cause some of today's problems with incarceration of colored people in America.

    Democrats, as of Bill Clinton, showed America that they were "tough on crime", same as a republican. They showed us they were no longer opposed to wars or killing as Bill Clinton killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqis through the sanctions his predecessor Bush Sr. started. As democrats were showing us how much like the republicans they can be, they actually show us that there is very little difference between the two parties anymore. The democrats have become republican in their foreign agendas, fine with killing for corporations. At home democrats are still similar to democrats but still work for corporations in their states to screw over America. The governors of California and New York are two great examples.

    Bill Clinton also brought down The Glass–Steagall act. The act that was literally keeping wall street from giving us another crash like the one that lead to the Great Depression. This was a massive help to our wealthiest Americans. Democrats show us they are willing to work with wall street over main street, just like republicans.

    Edit: New York has slave labor in their prisons. So democrats seem just fine with it to me. (I bet if we looked it up we could see how many states, blue and red, that have slave labor in their prisons.)

    The two parties both work directly for wall street over main street. This is the direct cause of the wealth inequality here in America. Everything I watch shows this to be true. Ronald Reagan broke open the dam for corporations and the ultra wealthy, every president beyond him has helped to keep that dam open.

    As I see it, both parties own America's mess.
     
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    Or maybe the democrats are just better at getting away with corruption? Naaaah. The uber rich would never conspire like that.
     
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    You don't think there are uber rich Republicans?
     
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    What would convince you that there are differences? Because you can always invent a conspiracy that explains away numbers and facts. That's what QAnon is based on. (I'm not accusing you of being part of QAnon, to be clear, I'm pointing out an extremely popular movement right now that's based on inventing theories that explain what they want or expect to see, no matter what actually happens.)
     

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