Lemieux traded

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  1. NYR Fan

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    If we were a playoff team, maybe you can say keep him for a down the stretch run, but we are not making the playoffs, and I rather play kids there to gain experience. To get a 4th for almost useless at this point Lemieux makes sense to me. We have so many 4th line options anyway, so why not add a 4th.

    Kreider/Zib/Buch
    Panarin/Strome/Kakko
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    Howden/Rooney/Di G/Blackwell/Gauthier/Barron
     
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    Rangers are very soft right now and could use a physical player or 2 on that 4th line that can play and also handle the rough stuff
     
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    Honestly, I’m over expecting any kind of toughness when watching hockey. The league is nothing like what it use to be. Some people like it, some people dont. It’s whatever now. Team only has about 20 games left until they’re golfing so no big loss
     
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    That's the thing though, does Lemieux really add toughness? Sure he plays with some grit, and for this team he was tough, but I don't think he solved that need. It is something we'll need to add to the 4th line for next year I think, unless Barron can fill the role. For now go with the kids and get them experience I say.
     
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    I bet Howden gets scratched alot in the last month.
     
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    And they only play the Caps one more time so if Wilson does anything Smith can fight him if needed. In some ways he's better at that than Lemieux.
     
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    Barron is an ivy product with 0 fights in his entire hockey career . He’s not tough at alll. At this point with all these young guys the Rangers bring up that don’t pan out I wouldn’t hold my breath on any of them at all
     
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    That dosen't mean anything, as there's basically zero of that stuff in NCAA hockey.
     
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    Lemieux’s game is not one you fully appreciate until we don’t have someone like him in the lineup. Just seems like a pointless trade to me. I picked Tom Wilson as an example but there are plenty of assholes on the Isles, Flyers etc as well.

    Can’t wait to use this extra 4th rounder on someone we’ll probably never hear of again after draft day.
     
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    Yea def, Prod. They haven’t hit on any players recently other than maybe Miller. Every first round pick they’ve had don’t look like they’ll be anything other than top 9 players
     
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    Personally I don't see this as much of a big deal either way. They are not making the playoffs this year, they have a very big logjam for the 4th line spots (the top 9 is locked in with Kravtsov up tomorrow or Tuesday), and with or without Lemieux the team needs to add some toughness and grit to the 4th line next season.

    On the small plus side we now have nine picks in the 2021 draft, including six picks in the first four rounds and three picks in the fourth round. Enough ammo to add as a little sweetener in a larger deal.
     
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    Strud, that's a moronic comment. Lundkvist hasn't even played an NHL game yet. The fact you're writing off Kakko and Lafreniere at this age with a shit head coach is absurd. Chytil is still only 21. Kakko is 20. Lafreniere is 19. Kravtsov hasn't played yet in the NHL. Zibanejad didn't have his first 30 goal, 70+ point season until he was 25. Panarin wasn't in the NHL until he was 24. Kreider didn't have his first 25+ goal, 50+ point season until he was 25.

    As far as Lemieux goes, he fucking sucks. He's stupid. He can't pass. He doesn't take faceoffs. He doesn't kill penalties. The Lightning's toughest player last year was Maroon and he's hardly that tough. The year before the Blues toughest player was Maroon. Maroon has been pretty lucky. Point is, the goon is a waste of time in this league come playoff time. As I said before, I have no problem getting a legit heavyweight like Lucic at half retained for a couple years to make sure the kids don't get run. Come playoff time, he's not dressing if they make the playoffs. Gorton and JD drafted a kid like Cuylle in hopes he will develop into a Wilson type down the line. A guy who can actually play. Lemieux got his chance here. For the most part, he was completely worthless. A guy like Bennett is every bit as tough as Lemieux and he's a much better player. I think the Lemieux move might be to set up a move for Bennett. Bennett much like Strome is a player I think will flourish with a change of scenery.
     
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    As far as dismissing 3rd and later draft picks, that is also absurd. I've always said past the first round their is safety in numbers with draft picks. This year they took Garand, Vierling and Berard who are all talented prospects. It would help if Canada got it's head out of it's ass and actually let the OHL play. The year before that they took Jones and Skinner. I'm pretty sure they could already use Jones in a package to get a pretty good young player back. The year before that they took Keane and Pajuniemi. Keane was used to get Gauthier who should flourish under a real coach. Pajuniemi took his game to another level. I think he's got a shot to make the NHL. Or at least be a trade piece. The year before that they took Barron who I fully expect to be a part of the team for a while. Even the year before they took Reunanen, Wall and Ronning. Wall has got lit up so far but he just came from college. Ronning somehow has had the light bulb go on and is now a PPG in 6 AHL games. Reunanen definitely can be used as a trade piece if they wish. He could play right now in the NHL over Smith who sucks. Huska is healthy this year and he might be a guy that could eventually be our backup if Georgiev is dealt and I get the feeling he might.
     
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    Sounds like Quinn may be back today, at the very least he passed COVID protocol, so if not today Tuesday. Kravtsov will also be in today or Tuesday.

    Exciting time to see the kids keep growing and more added as Kravtsov up, and Barron soon to follow I think (maybe right after trade DL if not sooner).

    One other angle on the Lemieux trade, is due to performance bonuses the Rangers were tight against the cap. Dealing Lemieux helps with that and gives some extra flexibility for players like Kravtsov and Barron to be up.

    Excited...
     
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    Reuanen looked good in the game he played
     
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    No team gave two shits if Lemieux was in the lineup. I never saw him winning any fights. He would always get his ass kicked. Like dump mentioned, he wasn't good at anything. You can always find players like him if needed for the playoff run.
     
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    Totally disagree, but that’s fine.
     
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    Lemieux was a guy I had hopes for but he pretty much sucked. People are complaining about grit. Panerin has it. Lindgren has it. Lafreniere will have it. Miller will have it. Kreider has it. Gauthier will have it. Barron will have it. Schneider will have it. It’s coming it just takes time
     
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    Gauthier reminds me of Marcel Hossa lol
     
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    Like I said I would love to have Blackwell and Di Giuseppe On our AHL team long-term and pay them well. Not on the big club. Bennett is a guy I wanted for two years and I still do. I think that’s gonna happen
     

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