Notice The OFFICIAL Corona Virus Vaccine Game Thread........

Europe: Dealing with Bureaucrats.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56600660

 

Canada: They keep drug costs low by not having a lot of phramaceutical companies in Canada. This is the end result.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/08/canada-low-covid-vaccine-capacity-480226

 

<insert HCP blurry-style pic here>

“Don’t worry, HCP.... the ‘swelling’ should go down soon!”

 

678 new cases today. We're going back up folks.

 

The reason your point is weak is because this vaccine rollout has essentially been "universal health care." It's going to be available to everyone, free of charge. So this isn't a point against universal health care, it's a point for it.

As for prescription drug prices being high because so much cost goes into R&D, that's certainly true. That has nothing to do with universal health care. Drug-makers could still pour tons of money into R&D and prescription drugs might still cost a lot, but it would be tax-payer funded, so anyone who needed prescription drugs could get them, whether or not they had money for them. You know, universal health care.

 

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https://www.csrxp.org/dose-of-reality-breaking-down-the-big-pharma-dollar/

 

Still a work in process, folks...

https://nypost.com/2021/04/08/people-experienced-nausea-dizziness-after-covid-shot-in-colorado/

Side effects that the Johnson & Johnson vaccine caused at Colorado site

 

Just got back from L.A. First flight in a year. We're fully vaxxed and wore masks of course. But wow, it sure was great to start to feel normal. L.A. was buzzing. Ate inside a restaurant (Philippes for you other ex-Angelenos).

Sign of the (new) times: Flight back was 100% FULL. I'm liking Biden's America!

 

If I am reading Geico Indemnity's latest financial report correctly it's about 2:1 claims:marketing ratio - but I have only took a quick glance at the BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY 10-K statement before I remembered that I do not enjoy this stuff...

So... google it, dog.

 

How are the countries that actually are big on Universal Healthcare doing, though. We're always being compared to Canada and Europe as to their models of healthcare. I'm even for universal healthcare, but I see how the government bureaucracy can fuck it up. Out the gate, whatever we did worked. I'm shocked that we even have a vaccine, better yet, distributed it widely by April.

This isn't universal healthcare, its an national emergency / disaster. That was the knock on Universal Healthcare, that you'd be waiting forever to get something done. Some countries make it simple, others make it hard.

We used our capitalist strength to acquire the vaccine posthaste, while working with private companies and along with the Government to distribute it quickly.

 

LA's dining has been back the past 2-3 weeks. Prior to that, it was all outdoor and 2 months ago, outdoor dining was banned still.

We've been going to San Diego and Orange County and Las Vegas more to be able to experience more freedom. Its like night and day when you cross county lines.

LA's turning into a bigger shithole. Homeless everywhere is a huge problem. Violent crime way up as well.



The idiot local councilman, Mike Bonin actually wants to set up more homeless camps on the beach. They want to ruin the last beautiful parts of LA so we all get accosted by mentally ill addicts.

 

Got Pfizer #1 today. I think I’m becoming a zombie. Or a vampire. One of those.

 

It really doesn't matter. "Universal health care" and "funding R&D" aren't mutually exclusive. If you're saying there are aspects of how they do things that are non-ideal or inefficient, that's probably true and we don't have to do things exactly like any other country--it's unlikely the US could do it exactly like any other country anyway.

The point is, no matter what you want to label it, the vaccine is being offered to everyone for free and somehow that didn't prevent this vaccine (and other types of vaccines, as Sly noted) from being developed. That goes to show that things can be offered universally and "for free" (at the individual level--obviously everything is paid for at the societal level) while still having the necessary innovation, execution and distribution. That's why this is a point in favor of universal health care, not against.

 

I certainly disagree that it’s a point in favor of universal healthcare.

 

Except that countries with Universal Healthcare have bungled acquisition and distribution. Gotta keep them costs down!

 

It says it’s one shot, but I’m not cool with that advertisement with two Johnson’s at once. Fools gold.

 

you basically reworded my post, dawg. Gwad.