Nurkic postgame comments

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  1. Tince

    Tince Well-Known Member

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    I like Nurk, but he's pretty low on the list of people who should be talking about these things.

    Nurk has a history of allowing his personal success to impact his decision making on the court. When his shots are falling, he's totally engaged, but when things aren't going well for him, he can go in the tank. If he misses an easy shot or makes a bad turnover, he's prone to compound it by fouling right away. He's admittedly gone rogue on schemes, which is selfish, even if he thinks it well intended.

    Most importantly, he's talking about guys on the floor who have been playing out of position and roles that are not ideal in order to make up for his extended absences.
     
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    lets all say it: mutiny! mutiny! mutiny! mutiny! mutiny! mutiny! mutiny! mutiny! mutiny! mutiny! mutiny! mutiny! mutiny! mutiny! mutiny! mutiny! mutiny! mutiny! mutiny! mutiny!
     
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    Portland most definitely is the outlier here - by a large margine.

    Shot attempts (FGA per game) by top 2 players:
    Utah: Mitchell (20.6) + Clarkson (14.8) = 35.4
    Phoenix: Booker (19.3) + Paul (12.5) = 31.8
    Clippers: Leonard (18.3) + George (17.0) = 35.3
    Denver: Jokic (18.2) + Murray (16.5) = 34.7
    Lakers: James (18.4) + Davis (16.7) = 35.1
    Portland: Lillard (20.1) + CJ (19.1) = 39.2

    Philly: Embiid (17.8) + Harris (15.3) = 33.1
    Bucks: Giannis (18.4) + Middleton (15.6) = 34.0

    What we see from this is that Dame is #2 on the list and CJ is #4. There are a lot of all-star duos that don't take as many shots as Dame/CJ. They are taking 4-8 more shots per game than every other duo. That may not seem like a lot - but its ~10%-25% more than all the other pairs.
     
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    wow....that is really harsh
     
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    Especially when your team is coming off of a finals appearance
     
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    Well he's a fan favorite here.
     
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    Watching his actually interview I am pretty sure that this quote should be in green font. Especially as he stands up laughing and says, " I hate you DJ" . Sounded to me at least more like a former teammate razzing a friend then him seriously believing that.
     
  9. wizenheimer

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    well, in the conference semi-finals, conference finals, and NBA finals, Jones had 6 DNP-CD's. He played 56 minutes in 11 games; 5 minutes a game. Pretty obvious that Miami did not view him as a viable playoff rotational player
     
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    its hard to tell if jimmy is serious or joking

    you never know with jimmy
     
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  11. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    i don't think shot attempt is the right metric as it doesn't account for pace differences. usg% might be more appropriate
     
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    I don't think it's the number of shots, it's the KIND of shots. How many times have we seen one of them bring the ball up the floor and without even looking to see if a teammate is open, jacking a shot from 30?

    3 on 1 fast break? 30 foot three pointer.

    Or my all-time favorite - dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble until there's only 5 seconds left on the shotclock and they either take a bad shot or pass to someone else who has to take a bad shot.
     
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    I think the potential quote meant “we don’t understand we have the potential to win a title or at least play better.” I don’t think it meant “play the young guys more.”
     
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    Can we finally put some light on Lillard? He's takin the team out of trouble a lot of times, but it is him that constantly prizing Stotts.
    And CJ?

    #thissocalledcultureisrotten
     
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    Half of "wasting Lillard time" is on Lillard himself.
     
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    Only teams with a slower pace (less possessions) are Phoenix, Clippers, and Nuggets. These 3 are only 1-1.5 possessions per game behind Portland.

    The pace comment has some merit - but it doesn't change the end conclusion.... That the Dame/CJ combo are using too many possessions relative to the team.
     
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    It's not all the shots they take but it's not any offense concept how game should be play. Your job of point is get everyone involved in the offense not have someone come across half and fire 36 foot that sometimes it goes in and sometimes it's bricks and lead to a fast break going the other way. That needs to change everyone needs be involved.
     
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    I don't agree that's the correct conclusion, or at least half of the conclusion isn't

    * Portland, as a team, scores 1.264 points/shot. And that has been about the level of points/shot for the team for a few seasons now; about 1.26 points/shot

    * Dame is averaging 1.43 points/shot this season and 1.47 points/shot last season (1.26 team). So, Dame averages about .17 to .21 more points/shot than the team. But that's not the complete picture. In order to get there, you have to delete Dame's FGA's and points from the team totals. When you do, what you're left with is Dame averaging 1.43 points/shot while the rest of the team averages 1.22 points/shot. In other words, Portland is averaging 4 more points/game when Dame averages 20 shots a game, than they would without him. So, relative to the team, at least on a mathematical level, Dame doesn't shoot enough

    * CJ is another matter. He's averaging 1.23 points/shot. But that number is propped up by his early season hot streak. It's been falling steadily since he returned. For his career, he's averaged 1.18 points/shot. Last season he was under 1.15 points/shot. So you could make a case that CJ shoots too much relative to the team
     
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    That's average but slot of times it close that 50 mark on shots together.
     
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    this would be an amazing idea for Game of Zones
     
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