Politics The Joe Biden Thread

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  1. stampedehero

    stampedehero Make Your Day, a Doobies Day Staff Member Moderator

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    Ah. What's a few billion any way. It's like one grand means something to us and for Congress it's cigar lighting material.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    The Germans have a name for these sort of people - Dummkopfs or dumb heads. I call them air heads. Either way, you get the picture.
     
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    stampedehero Make Your Day, a Doobies Day Staff Member Moderator

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    The guy in the casket looks like a wax figure of John Malkovich. Poor cropping. Stock Market is un predictable. lol
     
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    You're right. Homelessness isn't a money issue. Housing them first saves us more than letting them remain homeless.

    We're ACTIVELY choosing to spend more and let them ruin our cities by letting them remain homeless.
     
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    Absolutely. Because a lot of this is irrational and emotion-driven. Even if it's better and cheaper for society to house the homeless, there's a large group of people who, on principle, would oppose it because "economic Darwinism" and the idea of giving people, who are probably lazy and shiftless (in their minds), something is anathema to them. They'd rather the societal ills that come from homelessness than be a society that "bails out the losers" (unless those "losers" are corporations).
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I agree with you, but I was making a different point...

    barfo
     
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    I know, however I like to point this out at every possible opportunity.
     
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    With all federal land in this vast Nation why couldn't there be built small towns where the homeless could live with shelter, food and other amenities provided and training to assist them to survive and thrive.
    These /towns/camps? could be equipped with medical facilities, commissaries etc. But also require some sort of work program along the way much like forest camps way back.
     
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    Its a good idea in theory, but once they are out of sight do you think it would play out like that? I kind of feel like there is a good chance that they will become forgotten slums or labor camps of some type. Also what do we do with the people who dont want to live there? Is it forced? Do put them there against their will or given them prison as the other option? Im not saying it couldnt work, I like the concept, but its a lot more complicated than just that.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Biden has announced that he wants a tax hike for the wealthy.
     
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    How would they get drugs?
     
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    There are a few test runs we should remember. best_animated_gif_nuclear_explosion.gif
     
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    No you wouldn't force anyone, it would be for those that need a bit of extra help to get going again or become part of the national or State civil force. It would need to be managed properly with progress measurements.
     
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    I have no idea who the strange looking guy on the left is.
     
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    No need. There are 500k chronic homeless in the US at any given time. There are between 2 and 3 million vacant apartment units in the US at any given time. Average rent is under $800 per month ($9600 per year) .

    Each homeless person costs us on average $40,000 per year. Mostly in police overtime, emergency services, and maintenance from damage.

    We can just choose to save money by paying their rent.

    Even if it didn't save a cent it would cost each household in America $3 per month at worse!

    https://www.valuepenguin.com/average-household-budget

    https://www.politifact.com/factchec...cretary-says-homeless-person-costs-taxpayers/
     
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    Then the amount of homeless with skyrocket if rent was paid. I see your point however!
     
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    The amount of homeless will actually be reduced. Chronic homelessness is incredibly hard to come back from.

    If you have a private and secure address, food, and water you can be treated far more effectively.

    Healthy people with a secure address, food and water can now get a job and will eventually want a better apartment and a new smart phone. Then a car...
     
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