Does Stotts make it through the rest of the season?

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Does Stotts make it through the rest of the season?

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  1. blazerkor

    blazerkor Well-Known Member

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    Teams fire coaches before the end of the season all of the time and let a coach with only assistant coaching experience finish the season out as interim head coach. It's definitely not a good excuse. The nonverbal and more importantly verbal communication we are getting from this head coach and the players has made it obvious for a couple of weeks now, that this situation needs to be dealt with now. You can't have everyone sounding and looking like they've given up in interviews and playing like they have. It's bad for the players on this team, that the organization wants to keep, to send the message that the way Stotts is coaching, talking and acting is at all acceptable.
     
  2. wizenheimer

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    not very good comparisons in my view

    * MJ had 3 different coaches in his first 5 seasons before the Bulls hired Jackson. Doug Collins coached 3 seasons and took the Bulls to the EC finals, and still Chicago fired him. MJ didn't have to "sit by", even though he didn't win a championship till his 7th season

    * Lebron had 3 different coaches in his first 7 seasons. Mike Brown coached 5 of those seasons and his last two the Cavs won 66 and 61 games. Then Lebron jumped to Miami. He didn't really have to sit by either. And, he didn't win a championship till his 9th season

    * Kobe was in his 4th season when the Lakers hired Jackson and that season started their first three-peat. He didn't have to sit by either

    now, you can say that Dame's loyalty to the team and teammates might generate some complacency on his part. But that in no way excuses Olshey's complacency. or Stotts not holding player accountable...including Dame

    what I see looking at those 'records' is that those players had the good fortune to play for owners and management that didn't settle for being pretenders jogging on a treadmill, year after year. What I'm also certain of is that if Dame had called out management, coaches, and teammates before this current situation, he'd be getting trashed by a lot of people for that as well
     
  3. KSF-ERIC

    KSF-ERIC Well-Known Member

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    Over and over and over? We made the WCF 2 seasons ago. I know you hate that but it’s true.
     
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  4. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    That seems like such a long time ago now
     
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    I have recognized all along that he'll be given until the end of the year.

    However, he should've been fired immediately after his post game presser last night. He doesn't give a fuck anymore.

    1) It's his job to let his players know what he wants them to do in that late free throw make/miss situation. He said he didn't know if Dame was trying to make it or miss it. You're the fucking coach, that's your job to communicate those exact things. On top of that we have one of the best offensive rebounders in the league (Kanter) and he wasn't even put in the game to try and get the rebound? INEXCUSABLE.

    2) When asked about the baseline inbounds play towards the end of the game he told Quick that Quick should know what they were trying to run there. Are you kidding me? Everyone knew he was going to be predictable and try to run high/low there. Even Stotts admits it's predictable.

    ...and yes, I was "foaming at the mouth" over these stupid ass answers from someone who is allegedly a good coach.
     
  6. Tince

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    Has there been a head coach of a playoff team who got fired with less than 15 games left in the regular season?
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    People are frustrated. That's why he'll be let go this summer. He's not getting fired mid-season. I just don't see it.
     
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    Yeah, I'm not sure what it accomplishes. This team isn't getting out of the first round this year regardless of who's sitting on the bench.
     
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    People here were ready to fire him after the WCF, a month into the season after the WCF run... 2 years after is a lifetime for those people.
     
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    Yeh, I wonder why?
     
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    Can't think of any and this is why Stotts will be allowed to keep his job but I think he's doing irreparable harm to the franchise right now.

    The closest ones I can think of:

    Pat Riley taking over for Stan Van Gundy in the 2005-06 season, in which they won the championship but that was early in the season..

    Hawks went from 6 games under .500 to 6 games over .500 this year with Nate McMillan (19-7 since he took over) but again not this late.

    Ty Lue taking over for David Blatt in the 2015-16 season and won the championship.

    Paul Westhead replaced Jack McKinney and won a title with the Lakers in 1979-80 and then in 1981-82 was fired during the season and Pat Riley took over and won the championship that year.

    In 1977-78 Lenny Wilkens took over for Bob Hopkins after a 5-17 start and they got all the way to the NBA Finals and lost in 7 games and won the title the next year.

    But yeah can't find an example super late in the season (for obvious reasons). I will say looking at this there could be a strong argument that making a coaching change works if you hire the right person.
     
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    Awesome post! I forgot about Westhead, that was a great pull.

    I hope the next guy makes us a championship contender. As you know, I'm far from optimistic the next coach will even get a Dame/CJ roster back to the WCF unless Olshey adds an all-star forward. I want to be wrong!
     
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    We should be the first to try that strategy though. Fire the coach and then whoever our playoff opponent is will have little to no film on who the new coach is. Could take a team by surprise, lol.

    At this point it couldn't really be any worse than it is (for a good team that is).
     
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    I certainly don't want it to get any worse! LOL

    How many years are you good with Olshey if we can't get out of the 2nd round with the next guy?
     
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    I never like to put time limits or that specific of goals on things. If he does a bad job either with tweaking the roster or with his next coaching hire then he shouldn't survive that.

    I just want to see this roster with a new coach and some fresh approaches before writing it off as incapable of working. I don't think drastic changes are needed yet, unlike most people.
     
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    BigGameDamian Well-Known Member

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    You like Terry Stotts?
     
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    I have a weird hunch if we lose the Memphis game tomorrow that I’m going to get an ESPN app update on my phone saying the Blazers fire Terry Stotts.

    At this point, when talented rosters underachieve GM’s deflect and look for a scapegoat. I wouldn’t think Olshey especially would be any different.
     
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    Not sure if I will last the season.
     
  19. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I keep expecting it, but it never seems to come.
     
  20. Tince

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    I'm not sure why anyone would expect something as unprecedented as firing a coach who's team is currently in the top 8, has a winning record, and only has like 14 games left (not to mention this team only had 1 all-star). There has to be a first for everything, but this seems like an unlikely first to me.
     
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