The Olshey Era

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  1. Strenuus

    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Dude. Its not about getting out of the first round. Lol.
     
  2. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Forgot CJ and Ezeli, but the CJ contract I think was fine. He was young and had potential. Plus he was coming off an MIP. If he had some foresight to move that potential for some proven star talent we may not be in this current position.
     
  3. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    I firmly believe Olshey will hire someone who says they can make CJ a better player. You give Olshey a chance not to trade CJ and he won't.
     
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  4. EGame

    EGame "You're the only one of these fools I trust"

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    The goal isn't to win a first round series, it is to compete for a championship. Olshey should have done this a lot sooner with regards to a coaching staff change. The fact he hasn't means he can fuck off with Stotts this off season
     
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  5. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    How can you say that when there's still dead salary on the books through 2024 (!!!!) because of those moves?
     
  6. calvin natt

    calvin natt Confeve

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    That’s why I said “for fucks sake”. As in, at a minimum they shouldn’t be done now. Yeah. Everyone wants a championship guy
     
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    calvin natt Confeve

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    I don’t agree. I can see why you’d think that but I don’t. So there.
     
  8. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    what was the opportunity cost?

    not saying it wasn't bad, but i felt the mistakes in the 17 draft were far worse
     
  9. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    That's cool.

    We'll see what happens.

    New GM, new coach, CJ traded

    vs

    New coach.
     
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    Ah. I misinterpreted. My apologies.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Not being able to make any significant moves for almost three years because no one wanted those awful deals. Having to work around the lux tax for 8th-10th guys. There were better plays signed that offseason for much less.
     
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    Far and away imo, and a fireable offense. It was pretty clear Aldridge was leaving, and even if he was truly undecided, you can't risk getting nothing as a GM. By the way, they probably should re-look the current system at the next CBA negotiation. Football and baseball have compensation plans in place for team's losing free agents, and the NBA is more star reliant than those leagues with far more crippling effects from free agency loss.
     
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    How...
    in the fuck...
    does this guy still have this job?!?
     
  14. Strenuus

    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Post of the year candidate lmfao.
     
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    I was against the C.J. deal and not many people were at the time, which kind of deflates some of the reason behind the arrogance some Olshey bashers live on. Still, unlike them I don't blame the entire contract on Olshey. It's partly because of a terrible union contract that abuses the salary game in favor of upper echelon players like C.J. It's also partly bacause of Dame. No, C.J. never deserved that contract but Olshey is limited by the union contract in what he's allowed to do, so he's left between a binary of overpaying or jettisoning C.J.
     
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    This is nonsense. First of all a ton of us didn't want that contract, so please don't try to set yourself up as some kind of outlier. Second there is nothing in CJ's contract that is dictated by the CBA. It's not a max deal in any way. Olshey could have signed him to the minimum through what he did. Olshey definitely could have given CJ the reasonable contract that started around 20M in it's first season, nothing kept him from doing that. He was simply doing what Olshey does, which is bid against himself. He did it with Meyers, ET, Ezeli and he definitely did it with CJ.
     
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    This doomed our title chances. Should have traded him as soon as it seemed like he may not sign the extension.
     
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    Wes's Achilles rupture happens before the trade deadline, sure, that's valid. Otherwise, the team looked like it was going to have post season success and keep LA.
     
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    I don't think you can keep LA at the trade deadline if you don't have an extension. At that point regardless of what the team was doing, you get the most possible for him. It's like this season Olshey fucked up in the Trent trade because now Norm can walk and we have no say in it. You can't allow the possibility of losing value for nothing when you're a small market franchise. Olshey uses the excuse that we can't sign big name talent all of the time but he doesn't operate like talent is at a huge premium for us.
     
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  20. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    If Olshey returns I’m gonna be bummed. Even if he fires Stotts and brings in Vanterpool, which is what will happen because Dame will want him, it will show, once again, that Jo Lynn accepts mediocrity because most Blazer fans do as well
     
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