Trade Ben Simmons poll

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What's the most you would give up for Ben Simmons?

  1. CJ + RoCo for Simmons and scrubs

    9.7%
  2. CJ for Simmons

    62.1%
  3. It depends on our new coach

    3.4%
  4. I'm not trading for that bum!

    24.8%
  1. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Simmons had 13 assists last night



    But at least half of these are him passing to a guy who ends up creating their own shot. Is there some home cooking going on here?

    https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/ben-simmons-home-road-splits

    Averages 7.9 assists at home
    Averages 6.0 on the road (in just 1 less minute)

    2020-21 season home/away per 36:
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    2019-2020
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    2018-2019
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  2. Kano John

    Kano John Start 'em young!

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    Yeah -I thought about PF but RoCo seems to be a lock there. But that might be the best position for him, if not with the Blazers then some other team
     
  3. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    So, we have several possible scenarios.

    1) Re-sign Powell and swap CJ for Simmons.
    2) Re-sign Powell and keep CJ.
    3) Powell walks and we keep CJ.
    4) Powell walks and we swap CJ for Simmons.

    Imho, option one gives us a realistic chance to be better, options three and four don't, and option two is a long-shot based on who the new coach is.
     
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  6. TBpup

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    After reading #3, I threw up a little.
     
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    The more I read about Simmons, the more I think he won't be happy and engaged as a center or PF. He wants to be the playmaker; wants the ball in his hands every time down the court. I don't think this would work with Lillard.
     
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    Another thing. People talk about just needing to fix the mental side of Simmons. I think the mental side is the hardest to fix. You can get over an injury with rehab. You can fix your mechanics with good instruction and practice. Fixing mental is really tough.
     
  10. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    I am not sure that is a bad thing. Ben is very unselfish. If he shot it a lot it would be more of a problem. But having a 6'11" playmaker who is a PF and can pass over the top of defenders to whoever is open seems like a plus to me. Dame would still have plenty of opportunities to dominate the ball....if he really wanted to. As others have alluded to it all comes down to surrounding Ben with the right players....and a lot of movement.
     
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    Question?
    If the new coach is Billups, Becky or MD70 and they were ask about do you want Simmons for CJ and some what do you think their position would be?
    I would think during interviews they would be asked what kind of players do they need at each position to jive with their approach.

    Question?
    Why would SA allow Becky to leave if she's been groomed to replace POP? You'd think they would want here to stay?

    Question? what does it mean when Dame say's publicly he wants more offense?
     
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  13. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I wonder if we could see some kind of co-head coach situation with MDA and Billups or Hammon. I can't imagine MDA is going to coach for a lot longer. The dude is 70.
     
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    julius Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    other question: who besides fans have said that she's groomed to be his replacement?
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I heard from a dude who waxed the floor that she was clearly the replacement.
     
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    And yet till younger than Pop.
     
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    Thats a good point, not sure just seems to be the narrative since she is his #1 assistant and Udoka left also. Maybe she isnt and they both want different situation or she's not wanting to wait on POP.
     
  19. calvin natt

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    I good friend of mine is a varsity basketball coach in New Hampshire. A couple summers ago a strength/conditioning coach asked to work out players at his gym. Nerlens Noel came in, was with Philly at the time, and said of Ben Simmons he is a good guy but does not listen to anyone. Won't let them coach him. Thought that was interesting, and going to make changing his shot/offensively ability a lot tougher if he is still uncoachable. Maybe he was humbled enough this week to change.
     
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    That's definitely the vibe that comes from him. Firing the shot coach (who helped him) only to hire his brother to help him (only to see his shot get noticeably worse). Not only that, his game hasn't improved *at all* in the 5 years he's been an NBA pro (4 if you take into account his rookie year was spent injured).
     
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