Come on TB -- I mean having a 7 footer who does not box out and an aging Melo who is slow footed and even in his prime was avg or so does not equal good defense --- who would have thought that would be a recipe for disaster ...... oh yeah almost every Blazer fan with a brain but not NeO so makes me wonder what he does in the office. I wonder if he is trying to get back into acting and memorizing lines for Young or Gen. Hospital or something cause it sure as HECK is not using common basketball IQ and such.
The Kanter issue was only magnified because of Collins setback. Last time he was here those two played well together. Hindsight is 20/20.
Nope....it was pretty much current eyesight.....every single game. It was brutal. Defending those two on defense...SMH, then....
Agree...100%. I don't know if it's been accepted here for so long that fans have forgotten, but rookies can be pretty productive. Especially a top 10 pick. Maybe not offensively as much as defense and rebounding. Under Stotts it was expected that rookies wouldn't get enough minutes to contribute. But it's crazy to think Suggs or Mobley couldn't contribute on a championship team. Not a huge role, but a bench contribution is easy to expect. Plus, trading away our 1st round picks has contributed to the current situation and means we would be in this same position next year. And the key tool we have as a non-fa destination is the draft. Yet people talk about tossing in picks like they are tokens for a video game.
Really? What about Tolliver before that? Did someone want to protect his legacy too? And, I have less of a problem with Melo's time than I do Kanter's. Stotts has had defensive players this whole time but he showed his priorities. He just wanted shooters. Tolliver took time from Little last season too. Can you hold two thoughts in your head at the same time? The roster IS flawed AND it was better than the Nuggets in the playoffs. Any competent coach would have beaten the injured Nuggets.
I think on the low-end we end up with a guy like Tobias Harris. I wouldn't be excited but he's a better fit. But, I don't think we're going to get low-end. I think we'll do significantly better.
His contract is one year shorter than CJ's and it falls by $3 million in it's last year while CJ's increase by $3 million that year and then another $2 million in the last year. So in 2022-23 Cj will get 33 million and Love 28 million. And we get the third pick in the draft and get to keep Powell.
That's cool, I totally wanted Stotts fired and hated who he chose to play, who he played them with and a lot of times when he chose to play them. That being said the roster was poorly constructed and neither Stotts or Olshey seemed to care if we could defend our opponents.
Jesus can we pump the brakes like anyone knows if any of this is even true, like Neil factually rejected the 4th pick for CJ. First of all that doesn’t even work. It doesn’t make sense.
3way with Phil and Cle Love/Simmons to PDX CJ/Thybulle to Cle Sexton/Nance/#3 to Philly Those are the key pieces, scrubs with salary added to make the money work. I don’t want Love but… Dame Powell RoCo Love Simmons I’m assuming Nurk needs to be in the deal somewhere with something else coming back. I don’t like it actually.
Really? That's why he went out and got Covington and Jones who are among the best in defensive metrics the season before? That's not true. You could say Olshey didn't do enough to mitigate it and that would certainly be up for debate but he seriously addressed the defense with those two moves in addition to acquiring Powell. I'm willing to roast and ask Olshey to be fired if he doesn't do what's necessary to giving this team the best shot but I'm hopeful he'll do a good job. Cross your fingers and stay hopeful.
And then stacked the bench with guys that can't guard anyone, left our back court with two bad defenders... yep I'd say that Olshey doesn't put nearly enough value on defense in the moves he makes. It makes sense though, it's like the fact that he can't seem to wrap his head around Dame and CJ being less than the sum of their parts on offense... they're two great offensive players but they aren't complementary. Why would Olshey understand this stuff though? He just gets talent and expects the rest to work itself out, the guy never gives a shit about continuity, balancing the roster or fit. It's because he's not a basketball guy, he's a salesman. The guy didn't start his career in basketball until he was 37 and he's 56. He didn't do shit with basketball in college. So he spent half of his adult life doing something other than basketball and then tried to pick it up. He's not a basketball guy, he's a salesman and it shows.
Yeah, I believe strongly that CJ has positive value at 30M per season and Love definitely has negative value at that salary. That being said without taking on the negative value of Love, is CJ worth the 3rd pick in this draft? He's not. It's all a moot point though because I don't think the third pick in the draft and love taking up all of that cap space for the next two seasons is going to communicate urgency for a championship to Dame. If we were scrapping the whole roster and rebuilding it would definitely be something to consider though.
I will wait and see what olshey does because I just don't see to much he can do to make this team better. If he runs it back you still 2 guards are not good defender it's doesn't matter who the coach is. Yes they could come different schemes but I still don't much better maybe 18 to 20 for team defense and that's not good enough to win a championship.
If Minnesota would consider a big haul for Kat making it a 3 team trade with a guaranteed top 3 pick would look very attractive. This would set them up to build off a Edwards. Portland Out - CJ, Nurk, 22 1st, 24 1st In - KAT, Love Minn Out - KAT In - Nurk, 3rd pick, 22 1st, 24 1st Clev Out - Love, 3rd pick In - CJ
