Zombie Damian Lillard to request trade in coming days (nope, he's not.)

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  1. blazerkor

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    That's still not how I would read it. I think Dame gave them the mandate to make the roster better and he'll see if those changes are good enough during the first part of the season and if they weren't urgent enough he'll want traded at the deadline. I know it was before he met with Neil and Chauncey later that day but in his presser he was asked if Chauncey could be a big enough difference to satisfy what Dame needs and he flat out said no.

    Also I just don't buy the idea that running it back is a real option. There are a lot of teams that like Norm and the Knicks are one of them and they can pay him just as much as we can. So if Norm has to choose between going to the Knicks where he'll get to defend guards instead of guys the size of MPJ and doesn't have to take the scraps from two ball dominant back court scorers like Dame and CJ... I think he'll choose the Knicks unless the money is significantly different, which I don't see why it would be.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Lillard isn't going anywhere. He's said so over and over and over again. Then there's his business in McMinnville. Then there's his brand new home on the Willamette in West Linn near Lake Oswego. His roots here are deep, deep, deep.
     
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    The last time we heard him speak he said very clearly that for the first time in his career he doesn't know if he sees himself here in the future. I know he has said over and over and over again that he wouldn't leave but I think Olshey has a way of trying people's patience and I think that is where Dame is at. Ultimately, like I've said, I think Olshey will understand that when Dame says urgent he means urgent and we'll see CJ moved for a piece that makes more sense with Dame and I really do think it will happen in the next week or two. That being said, I don't trust Olshey so I'm scared.

    One guy that hasn't said he wants to be here is Norm. So if I'm wrong and CJ isn't moved by the start of free agency and another team offers similar money to what we're offering Norm but promises him more touches than he can get playing with Dame and CJ and promise that he'll be able to primarily guard guys his size... I think Norm walks. Then Dame's mandate to get better becomes pretty much impossible. Then we can see if you gambling that what he has said in the past means more than what he is saying right now pays off.
     
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    I hope you are right (and I think you are ;)). I mean Blazers are a great destination for someone who needs to learn how to shoot. But I still wonder that Philly do not seem able to learn how to shoot or to help him gaining back some confidence.

    The trade would fit for both sides so I hope they do so.
     
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    And they will be deep aftee his career. Casey holdahl said that. Doesn't mean he doesn't want to go win a title elsewhere.
     
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    If other business including signing Norm, minimum contracts, trades, and use of the tax MLE occurred before the sign and trade for DeRozan, would that pass the hard cap rules? [Unlikely it happens anyway, I know.]
     
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    only if the S&T deal left Portland under the apron with a minimum roster under contract (includes roster charges)
     
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    I repeat, Lillard is going nowhere. Mark my words.
     
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    Next season and the one after that, Lillard will be a Blazer.
     
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    And I remember people saying these exact words about Aldridge.
     
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    I like the optimism. That will mean we went all in to get Dame more talent. I just have little faith in Hollywood Olshey.
     
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    I could see him here for this upcoming season... after that if there's no vast improvement, he's gonna request a trade.
     
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    You could be right, but I see an awful lot of Debbie Downer supposition in your posts. It's certainly not obvious or knowable. It's possible and conjecture.
     
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    You're right it is conjecture. There are a ton of different things that could happen... most of which end up with Dame staying since he does want to be here and is just starting a supermax extension.
     
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    The truth is that both the local and national media got Blazers fans to go along with a slow moving coup to oust Damian Lillard. All the hysteria about Billups and the constant denigration of Neil Olshey is what almost did it.

    There are so many stupid fans who feed into it just because of what the media says.

    I may have clicked in this thread two or three times max because I knew it was BS.

    Do better. Don't feed it.
     
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    I think most fans are sick of the stagnation and condescension of Neil Olshey... I don't think that has anything to do with media influence. Dame is also sick of the stagnation, no one wants to oust him, we're afraid that due to the way Neil handles things he will abandon us and don't blame him if he does.
     
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    That’s crazy to me to think that getting Simmons and not Pascal for CJ is better lol.

    Do you guys really have short memory? Simmons has sooooo many flaws to his game, it takes away from what he brings to the table.

    I don’t even want to go into his flaws, guys if we have Simmons in the floors at any point then hack a Simmons can and will happen. Nate McMillan just exposed him badly. Stay away from Simmons!
     
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    Simmons is an ELITE defender.
     
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    I agree, but what good does that do if he is an HUGE liability on offense.

    Not only is he a bad 3 point shooter, he is scared to even attempt it. A top talent PG in the NBA that is afraid to even ATTEMPT a 3...lol on top of that you know how tough that is in today’s NBA where 3 pointers are a huge part of the game..

    He can’t shoot free throws, doesn’t want the ball in his hands. The guy didn’t even attempt many 4 quarter shots in the playoffs.

    On top of that he doesn’t even need the ball in his hands to get fouled, Hack a Simmons is for real lol.

    the fact is, so many hate CJ they are coming around to thinking a Simmons swap for him would be better.

    Pascal is a way better fit and it’s not even close
     

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