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Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Scalma, Jul 9, 2021.

  1. wizenheimer

    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

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    what I saw of him in the Olympics looked decent

    but, Exum has played in 245 NBA games and his career marks are 40.7% on FG's and 30.5% on three's. I wouldn't see any team signing him for his shooting

    right now, Portland's height chart is

    6'11 nurk
    6'11 zeller

    6'7 roco
    6'7 brown
    6'6 snell
    6'6 eleby
    6'5 jones
    6'5 nas
    6'3 Mclemore
    6'3 powell
    6'3 cj
    6'3 simons
    6'2 dame

    pretty glaring hole in the roster at PF. Exum doesn't fix that
     
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    BoomChakaLaka Well-Known Member

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    Not that it matters too much at all but Greg Brown measured out at 6'8.5" and is listed at 6'9". Obviously the young guy isn't going to see the floor much if his summer league play is indicative of where he's at, so it still doesn't add size or length to our rotation.
     
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    Nurk regressed a ton during that season. The next season he came back with a vengeance and was playing by far the best basketball of his career. Looked like a future all-star before his injury. The team was hitting on all cylinders right before he broke his leg.
     
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    he actually measured as 6'7.25". The revised NBA protocol is to list players at their height without shoes, and round to the nearest non-decimal height. Thats why CJ, Simons, and Powell aren't listed as 6'4 anymore. Or Nurkic listed at 7'
     
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    Hartenstein still available? would be a decent 3rd string big for cheap
     
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    Looking at that, it’s clear that we need a big PF who can play center too. Paul Milsap is someone that can fit that role pretty well. He’s can shoot 3s, rebound well, and defend decently even at his old age. Larry Nance would be a great target. And Milsap can be a great and even perfect mentor for Greg Brown. Now we still don’t have a backup point guard, but Neil probably still think Simons can fill that role
     
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  9. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    ugh. Jody needs to go.

    https://theathletic.com/2768636/202...ing-offseasons-for-raptors-pelicans-and-more/

    Portland
    When the Blazers weren’t bewildering their best player with tire-fire news conferences, they weren’t doing much at all. Damian Lillard’s increasing non-subtle critiques of the roster around him might have spurred the Blazers to action, especially on the trade market. Thus far, they’ve purchased a second-round pick and signed three players to minimum contracts.

    Maybe the Blazers are biding their time and waiting to pounce later, but it sure looks like Portland is focused on staying below the tax line and running it back with last year’s group; the Blazers haven’t even used their taxpayer MLE.

    Given that this is what Lillard’s entire beef with the organization is about, it feels like a dangerous game to play. The entire league will be watching Portland over the next year for smoke signals about Lillard’s intentions; the Blazers’ offseason to date has only fanned the flames
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    Paul would have gone over the tax no questions asked if it meant trying to make Dame happy.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Yup. It's unfortunate that we have this place holder for an owner right now.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    I don't get it.

    She is printing money with this new TV deal and valuation. Yes, she has paid a nominal tax two years prior to last season, but WTF. This is do or die time and we got OUT of the tax last year deliberately to avoid the repeater this year, and you don't want to go for it? We have the 10th highest payroll right now in the league. For a team with a borderline top 5 player in his prime, that is ridiculous. Very clear indications that you have no intention to spend to win.

    While dropping a mil here or there in cash considerations for the 43rd pick looks nice on paper, you have to pay (tax) to play with the big boys in the playoffs. I don't blame Dame one bit for leaving if the org suddenly starts to pinch pennies.
     
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    Blazers are already over the tax line:

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    but it sure isn't by much

    they only have 13 players signed, which is one less than the standard minimum roster size, but there may be loopholes to that. If JA has insisted that Portland get below the tax at the end of the season, then it could be Portland is looking around summer league trying to find a player with no NBA experience so they could sign him to the 900K minimum (vs 1.67 vet minimum). Then, at the trade deadline it would be pretty easy to get under the tax line is Portland was only 1.2M over

    I have a hard time believing the Blazers would be that fucking cheap in the situation with Dame threatening a trade demand. But I guess it's possible.

    who knows....maybe JA is trying to sell the team and thinks a new owner would not want to start out paying tax right away
     
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    i wonder who would be interested. A lot of recent ownership groups that just bought into the NBA (Utah, BKN, ATL, LAC, MIL, SAC, etc) aren't completely local to their markets so that removes a hurdle of absolutely having to find someone from PNW.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    i swear i saw that we weren't just yesterday on Spotrac. Must have changed after the Brown signing last night.

    But yes, the point remains. We appear to be functioning in a way to potentially dump salary at the deadline to duck under (even if we are above now).
     
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    what happened was that Spotrac kept showing Snell in the pending list. So, they didn't count either of the Snell or Brown contracts. That left the Blazers about 2.2M under. So, they just fully updated in the last 24-36 hours

    also, keep in mind that the trigger for repeater tax is that a team was a taxpayer in 3 of the previous 4 seasons. So, if the Blazers stay under the tax line this year, they'd gain a 2-year margin, starting next season, between them and the repeater tax

    I'm kind of hoping this just means JA want to sell the team, and not having an immediate threat of repeater tax is a good selling point. Even if the threat of the Blazers moving is elevated (although I think that's really overblown), I'd like to see the Blazers not managed by the Vulcans
     
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    julius Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I really doubt that a new owner, who would be paying BILLIONS for the team, would be bitching about a 30 million dollar tax bill.

    Let's say the team is sold for 2.5 billion (I don't think that's unreasonable). That's 250,000,000,000.

    A lux tax bill of 100,000,000 which is I think is between 28 and 32 over the cap. I'm using 100 million because it's easy math) /

    Anyway, 100 million is approx 1/25th of the teams value. If the new owner would be kvetching over that amount, they probably aren't buying an NBA team (or would be in the running for one).

    Thinking an owner isn't going over the lux tax because they want to sell the team is laughable, and similar to the "so and so is sitting out so they must be trading him" mindset.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    i agree. i don't think ownership's reluctance to pay tax has anything to do with a potential sale. I think it's just more sticker shock and them not realizing that every winner/contender pays tax because of naivety.
     
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    this isn't about money.

    it's about competition and a new owner, looking at a team with no chance at contention, will not want to start out by sending money to the other owners, IMO

    I mean, why the fuck did Portland do everything they could to stay under the tax line last year? paying 30M in repeater tax compared to the estate JA inherited is a much smaller nothing-burger than your example.
     

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