OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting

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  1. calvin natt

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    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    + monitoring time.
     
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    It’s crazy how all the people who believe in the magical man in the sky and parting of the Red Sea and a big boat with two of all animals don’t believe in factual science. It’s almost as if they are lying.
     
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    and a work out takes about half an hour. Your point? Johnnys was pretty clear. Are you advocating its fine for people let their health go to shit because its harder than getting a vaccine?

    And some people wonder why other people aren't for universal health care…
     
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    It seems pretty easy to understand what I’m saying. The original response was to dumbfuck donal Trump Junior saying “should we mandate being in shape” like the vaccine. The point of the vaccine is to help everyone, for the greater good. There is a two minute shot commitment that you can get to help dramatically with Covid. There is no two minute get-in-shape shot. And also, if someone in shape and doesn’t eat healthy it really doesn’t hurt me. Does it overflow hospitals? Not really. Does it kill my grandma if you’re smoking and eating Taco Bell? Nope. The vaccine helps EVERYONE directly. It seems pretty straight forward to me, although I guess I understand it wouldn’t be to you and others.
     
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    All 50 states require all students receive MMR and polio vaccines, although states vary widely in allowing exemptions. So why is Covid vaccine such a threat?
     
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    If you have to ask how mRNA differs you haven't done your research.
     
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    I have a degree in genetics. I know a great deal about mRNA. Do you know what it is?
     
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    It's better than lRNA but not as good as nRNA.
     
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    Boom
     
  12. HailBlazers

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    So why are you playing dumb equating it to traditional vaccines?
     
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    What is mRNA, and how do mRNA vaccines work?

    Messenger RNA (mRNA) provides a recipe that your cells can use to make proteins. SARS-CoV-2 vaccines include instructions to make one portion of the virus (the spike protein) that is harmless by itself. After injection, the cells in your arm muscles pick up the mRNA, make the protein, and display it on the cell's surface. Your immune system sees the protein and learns how to make an immune response against it. If you are infected with SARS-CoV-2, your immune system recognizes the same spike protein and can quickly induce an immune response to fight the virus.

    What are the advantages over other vaccine strategies?

    Safety: Unlike live-attenuated or viral-vectored vaccines, mRNA is non-infectious and poses no concern for DNA integration—mainly because it cannot enter the nucleus which contains DNA. Other strategies such as protein-based or inactivated vaccines also require chemicals and cell cultures to produce. mRNA is made through a cell-independent process and does not require inactivation; thus, it poses no safety concerns due to contamination with toxic agents.

    Efficacy: mRNA is rapidly degraded in the body, and cells don't readily take up foreign mRNA. Recent technology has modified the mRNA molecule to make it more stable and packaged the molecules in fats (called lipids), increasing cell delivery efficiency. These advances increase the amount of spike protein produced on your cells, thereby stimulating a more effective immune response.

    Production: mRNA can be quickly designed and scaled up, if necessary. The manufacturing is sequence-independent, which makes it highly adaptable to different pathogens. The cost is also lower than other platforms and will continue to decrease as the technology expands.

    https://www.vumc.org/viiii/infographics/how-does-mrna-vaccine-compare-traditional-vaccine
     
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    People actually defending the "analogy" of an infectious virus to diet and exercise is about as dumb as... well everything else I read in this thread. Keep the comedy coming.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    If anyone has an irrational fear of mRNA vaccines, they can get the J&J shot instead.

    barfo
     
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    It's not about mRNA. It's about Republicans wanting to say Biden has failed to control the pandemic. In order to do that they need it out of control.

    I don't play dumb. Dumb is getting science information from random dude on Facebook. Dumb is throwing insults at anyone who has actual knowledge.

    Putting a piece of cloth over your face does not affect your genome. But antivaxxers are also antimaskers.
     
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    Excellent. Let's either release the Fat Vaccine for free or stop subsidies for junk food and make healthy food free.

    Also make cities more pedestrian and bicycle friendly.

    Let's say every highway must have a matching bike lane each direction seperated from traffic by a divider.

    I'm liking this!leta add high speed rail so people can actually commute to work via bike faster than driving and this is sounding real good!
     

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