OT "My Wife Was Dying of Brain Cancer. My Boss at Amazon Told Me to Perform or Quit."

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  1. SlyPokerDog

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    Amazon has long been accused of treating its workers as expendable. The stories of contract drivers forced to pee in bottles and warehouse employees whose labor is tracked down to the second have become infamous. But the misery doesn’t stop there.

    Amazon’s white-collar workers—the ones who write the code and manage relationships with major companies—must endure a corporate culture that is notoriously ruthless compared with those at other major tech companies. This is what it looked like when one of those workers found himself under a boss who embodied Amazon’s obsession with performance and quantifiable results. He asked to be anonymous because he fears retaliation from his current employer.

    In response to a request to comment, an Amazon spokesperson said, “While Mother Jones has not provided enough information for us to verify or investigate these claims, the situation described does not reflect our guidance to managers or our performance management policies in respect to employees experiencing personal hardship.” He added, “We work hard to ensure that all employees have what they need to be successful in their roles, including resources for employees who need additional support to navigate challenging personal circumstances or to meet performance expectations.”​

    I met my wife in 1999 on Yahoo Personals. She was a standup comedian for years. We met, got pregnant, married, and moved all in a year. She was a very cool woman. Being a mom was what she wanted to do. She was just great at it. My daughters are amazing, and I attribute a lot of it to her. They’re 16 and 20.

    I started my career doing consulting. Then I went into product management. We moved to California, then we moved to Tennessee. My brother called in 2015 and said, I’ve been diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. I can remember the date and the time because it was just so surreal. He survived 18 months and died in September 2016. He had actually worked for Amazon running seven or eight of the warehouses before he got sick. Typical of Amazon, they worked him a lot.

    In February 2017, my wife and daughters decided to take a walk in the park while I was in California. My wife had a grand mal seizure while she was backing out of the driveway. She ended up backing into a school bus. Luckily, my daughters and the kids on the bus were all okay. I got a call from my wife’s friend saying they’re doing a PET scan at the hospital. My wife was diagnosed with brain cancer.


    I did a bunch of research on glioblastoma. To some extent, I knew it was a death sentence. But we did our best not to think about it like that. My employer at the time was really great about it. They were really very helpful in trying to make sure that I was okay.

    Then one of my friends reached out in July 2018 and said, we have an opening at Amazon that I think you’d be really interested in. It was a pretty short application process. What they offered me was almost $300,000 per year. That was a shitload of money in Tennessee. You can’t really say no, right?

    I told them, I can’t move to Seattle. I explained how bad brain cancer was. There were no surprises for anybody, including my boss. I said, if this is an issue, I can’t come work for you. I needed steady health insurance. My wife’s surgery to remove a tumor was $300,000. If I hadn’t had insurance, I’m not sure what I would have done.

    The first three months were really about becoming an Amazonian. They indoctrinate you into their way of thinking. There’s nothing in their leadership principles that talks about caring for other people. You hear all these horror stories about Amazon, but you’re not sure you can believe them. As you live that nightmare, you go, shit, it is like that.

    Still, the challenges came a little bit out of nowhere. My boss was saying, we’re seeing some things that we’re concerned with. I said, look, I’m having some issues. Every few months my wife would have an MRI. Iwould be so tense going to the next MRI because tumors were a fairly frequent occurrence. We were just trying to keep my wife alive.

    As we got into the end of 2019, I go to my HR department. With my brother’s death—I had explained to Amazon that my brother had died—I never really took the time to grieve. I pushed down the grief. Then my wife got sicker and sicker. I just got more and more depressed. You see no end in sight.

    I had a long talk with HR. The response from them was, okay, you have two options here: You go on family leave, or you can perform. Those are your two options. I was thinking, if I take family leave, I get no income. I remember talking to my wife about it and saying, I can’t believe these are my options. So, I ended up trying my best to power through with the added pressure of knowing my boss wasn’t happy with me, even though I’m not sure what I did. I feel like I was doing the things I needed to do.

    It went from mild concern from my boss to heavy concern after my conversation with HR. In December, when we’re in a meeting in Vegas, he comes up to me and says, your performance is not what I expect it to be. You and I need to have a conversation. It was really weird timing with me going to HR in November and then him coming back in December and saying, we don’t think you’re working as effectively as you need to.

    I remember sitting there thinking, what the hell did I do wrong? Could I have done things better? Definitely. Could I have gone out and been more proficient in some of the things I did? Sure. As you look at your wife’s mortality, that has an impact I didn’t fully register at the time. But I felt like I never got any support from him. I felt like they were looking for the path of least resistance, which was to push me out.

    In February 2020, my boss put me on what’s called a Pivot. The Pivots are typically made so that you’ll fail. As an example, I was going to be judged by a metric I had no control over. They give you an option: Do the Pivot or take $30,000 in severance. A week before the Pivot was supposed to end, I finally said, I can’t do this anymore. I was at my wits’ end. I felt like I was going to lose it at any point. Not that I was going to kill myself, but that I was going to be put in a rubber room. I was able to take family leave because I finally realized I was just clinically depressed. I spent from about February until about June working with a therapist trying to work through my issues. I finally got right in my head.

    Then I sent this really long note to Amazon saying the person who I was is not the person who I am. Their response was: We started the Pivot process. We don’t have a choice. We have to do this. They cut one of the goals in half, but it was still a huge amount. My boss basically read the letter I sent and had no compassion. It’s just metrics. I’m a cog in the machine. My wife was not getting better. She was going into radiation.

    I felt like it didn’t matter what I said or what I did. He was going to get me out. I can’t tell if it was because of taking family leave. He basically had decided that he was going to let me go, regardless. Towards the end of the Pivot, I said, screw it, I’m gonna get a lawyer. The lawyer said that she had gone through a lot of instances like this at Amazon. Getting a lawyer delayed the inevitable by maybe a couple of weeks.

    At the end of the Pivot, my boss said I failed. I had the ability to go to a board to explain why I shouldn’t be on Pivot, but the chances of that working were minimal. The lawyer said, let me write a letter. Amazon ended up responding with a 30-page document that I had to address. My boss knew that my wife was in terrible shape. He just didn’t care. He was just one of those people that was kind of a robot. Whatever was happening outside of work didn’t matter. There were a lot of people I worked with that ended up leaving because of him. Amazon truly is an organization that has very little human emotion to it.

    That was the middle of July. By the middle of August, they fired me. I refused to sign a severance letter. I said to my lawyer, I’m not signing that unless they give me what I think is fair, which is a year’s worth of salary. The other thing was my next set of 40 shares of stock options were coming in December. I lost about $100,000 because of when they fired me.

    In September, my wife went into hospice. She decided to stop all treatments. I was completely heartbroken. I blame Amazon to an extent for what happened to me, but I also blame my boss for the fact that he was so inhumane about this. I think it was probably 60 or 70 percent my boss, and 30 or 40 percent coming from Amazon’s culture.

    I tried to explain to my boss, the person I love the most is dying. How would you be able to cope as an employee? He didn’t care at all. I get the sense that Bezos doesn’t really care about your personal life. It’s like, that’s your thing. You gotta care about the work and the work only. That customer obsession is great in theory, but the human impact is devastating for someone like me. I had to go on COBRA. I had no income. I couldn’t work because I didn’t know what was going on with my wife.

    My wife died two months later. What if she had survived five months? What would I have done? They gave me three months of COBRA. I had savings so we probably could have lasted a period of time. At some point money would have become an issue, but I would have begged forever to have my wife last longer.

    My wife went comatose the last week of her life. It’s part of what happens as people die from glioblastoma. They kind of lose consciousness, but they’re still here with you. I didn’t sleep for eight days. I was watching her die every day. It was awful. If I could come back to my boss, I would like him to understand what it looked like. But I’d never want him to go through it because it was so painful. And still is.

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    theprunetang Shaedon "Deadly Nightshade" Sharpe is HIM

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    The American worker has less power than any time since the New Deal. It is time to make Unions Great Again. For real.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Corporations don't give a shit about their employees. Any sort of loyalty went right out the window.

    Basically you have to switch jobs every 2-3 years if you want fair pay. I am nearly doubling my pay because the job I have done for the past 2 years doesn't want to pay fair wages.
     
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    You have to look out for yourself now. Companies do not give a solid shit about anyone. When playing a game where the other side claws and bites for every last scratch, you better do the same. Loyalty is out of the window. It has been defenestrated. It seems like you know the deal, and are up to the task.
     
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    My company basically completely changed my job halfway through my contract. Went from doing one thing to now basically being a project manager with zero compensation added. I told them I was not happy and they said to go to my contracting company. So I rode it out and now that the market has shifted towards the workers, I'm cashing in.
     
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    Amazon Caught Destroying Millions Of Perfectly Good Products For Profit.



    This is a video on Amazon business practices, that should never happen.

    Amazon's labor and business practices should never be allowed in America. Supposedly we have a right to life, but if it is to be a slave. It is no life at all.
     
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    If you give loyalty you get loyalty. If you don't give loyalty, you won't get any loyalty.
     
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    theprunetang Shaedon "Deadly Nightshade" Sharpe is HIM

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    That is not how things work anymore. At all. I would show loyalty if an employer gave even 3 shits about whether I lived or died. They don't give a fuck. And loyalty to any of these fucks is beyond question.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    That's exactly what I said. Exactly.
     
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    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    How do they profit if they destroy it?
     
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    Road Ratt King of my own little world

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    The video tells you why at just after the 4 minute mark. It would be easier than me trying to explain.
     
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    I didn't get that from your first post. I got exactly the opposite. Lol.
     
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    Read what he said from the Employers point of view instead of the employee's point of view. Company shows loyalty to their employee's they will get loyal employees. Treat employees as most employers do and you get non loyal employee's.
     
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    I spent 7 years at Genentech and really thought they were different. Decent pay, lots of perks. Went through 2008 recession almost untouched. But although I kept taking on more responsibility, was well known as a person always ready to help others, and got very good reviews was never got promoted. My supervisor said a promotion required working on special projects and there were few opportunities but I was the best technical writer in the group and any special project opportunities would come to me. After 7 years he called me in. They had just gotten accelerated FDA approval for a drug for metastatic breast cancer that currently had no treatment. They wanted to scale up to market production fast and were putting together a cross functional team of people who would leave current assignments, move to new digs and work intensively for three weeks. They asked him for his best technical writer. He told me that was me but he was sending the second best because I have a disability that required a simple accommodation and that was too inconvenient. But I could help by doing her work as well as my own during the three weeks. One of the managers really liked her and offered her a promotion moving up two levels, almost unheard of. The team all got $10,000 bonuses. This second best technical writer in the next five years got two more promotions, we started a few months apart but I figure she by then made twice what I did. She got an opportunity and ran with it, more power to her, but I was denied the opportunity, not because I didn't deserve it, after years of promises.
    Even worse, at this same time the company reassessed the positions of about 1500 people and decided they were rated too high, not, they insisted, because of any individual performance, but because the job classifications were supposedly too high. I was one of the 1500. So was second best technical writer but she was working off her two weeks notice prior to big promotion so it wasn't a big deal to her but sure was to me. I left Genentech and went to affiliated company which turned out to be a hellhole but that's another story. How much more loyal could I have been?
     
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    There's politics in every work place unfortunately.
     
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    Unfortunately not in big business any more... Loyalty gets you bent over a barrel...
     
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    That happened to me.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    I was really thinking it from the employer's perspective
     
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