Chauncey and Terry

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  1. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    Solid knowledge drop. Props!
     
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    Let me reiterate:
    I don't think Stotts is all that great a coach. I just think he's better than most of the board seems to think. Sure, replace him, but if you do, replace him with someone who will do what he did well just as well or better. With offense, that's going to be pretty damn hard (with this average-to-mediocre roster).

    Chauncey might indeed turn into a good coach. But is he necessarily a good coach for this group? Let's see how adaptable he is. I certainly like the idea of his offense better than Stotts' - everyone wants to see the ball zip around rather than having Dame walk the ball up the court and jack up a three. But can this roster do well with that? I guess we get this season to find out how flexible they really are.
     
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    I’m not sure if you would have enough time to change both, what with the demands on your schedule for designing Blazers Dancers uniforms made out of cellophane.
     
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    good to know. but it was a different era and sloan still had way more success both in the playoffs and regular season. the premise of stotts' departure is still that he was here way too long and his firing was long due.
     
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    See!? I KNEW we fired Stotts too soon!
     
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    And Stotts
     
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    Jerry Sloan was a coach with the Utah Jazz for 12 years before they made the finals in his 13th year. It was also his 9th year as a head coach and he had what was at the time the #1 or#2 PF of all time and the most prolific assist man in the NBA.

    So, technically, as a coach, 2 is correct. As a head coach, Sloan does not apply.
     
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    That's 42 years in dogs years.
     
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    No, try something else first. Ideally, trading for an all star.
     
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    Right... I wouldn't have given either of them that long. It's ridiculous. There are only 30 NBA head coaching jobs in the world, these guys should be held to a higher standard than both of these coaches were. I am in no way excusing keeping Stotts by pointing out that Sloan got the same extended chance. Sloan as beloved as he is in Utah, never delivered a championship.

    Also the biggest thing being lost here is that in the history of the league only one other team, in one other instance showed the kind of inactivity that we showed with Stotts. Virtually unprecedented and Sloan had far more playoff wins. So the length of Stotts' tenure here coupled with his lack of performance was totally unprecedented. He's gone now though so we should all be able to move on.

    Now as far as Olshey goes... his continued tenure is still inexcusable.
     
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    Nah we should have done the same thing and expected a different result.
     
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    For Simmos?
     
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    30 games. How magnanimous of you.
     
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    Do you think TS ever had the kind of roster (relative to the rest of the league) that JS had in Utah? I would argue that him making it as far as he managed with such a flawed and undermanned roster is less of an indictment of his coaching prowess than the fact that it took JS that long to get a much better roster that far.

    That's just my opinion. I have no problems with replacing TS after all this time, but he never was the main problem and anyone that thinks so has his head stuck in the sand.
     
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    "Anyone who doesn't agree with me is an idiot."

    Usually not something a person in the right has to resort to.
     
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    Correct. Do you believe the Blazers had the roster in any of the years TS was the head coach to make it to the finals?
     
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    Trying to identify the main problem isn't a hard thing to do. Olshey whether it's fair to judge him for it or not, let Aldridge walk for nothing, Olshey crippled the team with bad spending, if Stotts was a problem (which I think he was) Olshey kept that problem around way too long, and Olshey has never made the big trade or signing necessary to get Dame the help he needs. Olshey is the main problem and has been the main problem... even if Stotts was the biggest problem his employment was Olshey's responsibility so again Olshey can reasonably be considered the main problem.

    That being said Stotts was so underwhelming in his nine year tenure here that you can disagree with but not completely negate the opinions of those that thought that firing Stotts was the first change that needed to be made.
     
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    Let give Billups time with his system. But the key is the players going buy in to his system that will be the key if Billups going have success or not. Looking of the showing so far they have long ways to go.
     
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    no.

    Now do I think they had the roster to make it past the first round in some of the years they didn't? Yeah.

    I think they underachieved with Stotts.
     
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