OT Alec Baldwin, Accidental Killer?

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  1. UncleCliffy'sDaddy

    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    That we know of…….if the election could have really been stolen, then maybe, just maybe Trump also pulled out a gun and shot someone. One’s just about as credible as the other……
     
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    You should see if she is available for your wedding! She could do a goth pyrotechnic sword thing as you're walking down the aisle.
     
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    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    Wedding was last weekend bro. :NOTMARIS:
     
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    Congrats!

    And you can have more than one ceremony.
     
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    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    nah, i'm good. lol. so beat.
     
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    We need pics! We need an El Prez wedding thread.
     
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    Protocol is that the Armorer hand deliver the gun to the actor.
    Why would the assistant director Hall, be giving the gun to Baldwin? He supposedly pick it off the cart that had three guns on it and told Baldwin it was cold.
    Why was there a live round in a gun on a cart?
    A couple days before this mistake, there were also incidents involving live rounds going off? And it was reported, WTF. If thats true Baldwin was ultra careless imo, especially as producer who should have been aware of other gun mishaps.

    Sounds like zero safety measures were being adhered to?

    Findings of investigation will be interesting. Assistant director handing Baldwin a gun with a live round and never checked it himself in front of Baldwin. Tragic
     
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    That's how local 44 covers their ass.
     
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    This Be True! The prop master is going down. I wonder why prop weapons are loaded since CGI can be used in the film scene.
     
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  11. Natebishop3

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    This was an interesting bit from an article that I saw. an actor from the show west world.

    “I don’t recall ever being handed a weapon that was not cleared in front of me — meaning chamber open, barrel shown to me, light flashed inside the barrel to make sure that it’s cleared,” Wright said. “Clearly that was a mismanaged set.”

    Actor Ray Liotta agreed with Wright that the checks on firearms are usually extensive.

    “They always — that I know of — they check it so you can see,” Liotta said. “They give it to the person you’re pointing the gun at. They do it to the producer. They show whoever is there that it doesn’t work.”
     
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    CGI always looks very fake. It’s hard to replicate the look of recoil as well.
     
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    Just really seems weird to me this whole incident. Sad yes.
    I have been around guns quite a bit. I wouldn't really care if it was supposed to be a blank or what not. You can bet I would know what was in the gun I was pointing around anyone. Part of me feels there is no excuse. Part of me feels very bad for all involved because this IMO should never have happened.
     
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    https://thefederalist.com/2021/10/25/watch-actor-explains-how-alec-baldwin-failed-to-follow-basic-gun-safety-on-set
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    Watch: Actor Explains How Alec Baldwin Failed To Follow Basic Gun Safety On Set

    OCTOBER 25, 2021 By Jordan Davidson
    Actor Adam Baldwin, who has handled multiple guns in his roles onscreen, said that Alec Baldwin clearly neglected to check the chamber of his gun on the set of “Rust” before firing a live round that killed a cinematographer and injured a director.

    “Why he didn’t check to see if it was cleared?” Adam asked on “The Dana Show.” “That’s, you know, to me, that’s just clear negligence. Everyone that is handling a firearm should know and is trained to check the weapon, clear the weapon, make sure that it’s empty. The barrel, the breech, the magazine, and the cylinder of a revolver in this case.”

    Adam said he wasn’t sure if COVID-19 protocols played a role in whether the prop master was “nearby” or not but that it’s clear Alec did not properly check the gun before firing.

    Reports indicate that assistant director Dave Halls told Alec the gun was a “cold gun” without any live ammunition in it but when the actor fired it, a real bullet struck two staff on set. Halls was previously fired from a movie set in 2019 after a crew member was injured by a gun.

    Adam said it is possible the crew tried to practice with the weapon by shooting live rounds in the New Mexico desert but even then he said “oversight from a professional trainer” is usually required.

    “It’s inexcusable that any live ammo would be mixed in with the blanks,” he said. “However, it’s inexcusable not to check and see if your weapon is loaded. … Whoever hands me a weapon, I check it.”


    Adam also said that Alec should have known better since he has decades of experience filming on sets with prop guns.

    “Alec Baldwin is 63 years old. He’s been doing this for 40 years or more. He’s had a gun in his hand on camera for decades and he would know that protocol had been broken when that gun was handed to him and he didn’t check it himself or whoever was handing it to him didn’t hand it to him opened so that he could see it and so that the people he was aiming at” could see it, Adam said. “It’s common practice to show the people behind the camera if you’re pointing in that direction, ‘see how empty this gun is? It’s completely empty.'”

    Adam said he doesn’t know who put a live round in the gun but said the corporate media’s treatment of the armorer seems unjust.

    “This armorer in the media is now being crucified and it reminds me of the way they treated Monica Lewinsky. … ‘I did not have manual relations with that weapon.’ It just seems so familiar, there’s some sort of PR firm right behind this that’s spinning it in the media and it’s disgusting,” he said. “It’s horrible that you would give armorers a bad name just because an anti-gun activist is incompetent with a weapon and shoots and kills the cinematographer. It’s a horrible tragedy, I mean, clearly he didn’t do it on purpose, but he did it out of negligence.”
     
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    I am glad we don't need to spend time on an actual police investigation. Maris already knows exactly what happened!
     
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    The investigation findings will show negligence.
     
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    You're talkin' about a guy who shoots himself in the foot every time he opens his mouth?
     
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  19. Chris Craig

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    Not yet. But, he is sure if he does, he will get away with it
     
  20. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Trump has caused more death than Alec Baldwin ever will
     
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