Game Thread Game #16 - BLAZERS VS BULLS - NOVEMBER 17, 2021 - WEDNESDAY - 7:00 PM (PDT) ROOT SPORTS

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Who should start?

  1. Lillard, CJ, Powell, Roco, Nurkic

    4 vote(s)
    14.3%
  2. Lillard, CJ, Powell, Nance, Nurkic

    5 vote(s)
    17.9%
  3. Lillard, CJ, Little, Nance, Nurkic

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    0.0%
  4. Lillard, Powell, Little, Nance, Nurkic

    17 vote(s)
    60.7%
  5. Other ( Please Specify)

    2 vote(s)
    7.1%
  1. wizenheimer

    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

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    those +/- stats always come with a little noise so you need to gauge for that

    to me, the most surprising thing is how well Dame is showing considering he's shooting so badly. On the other hand, I'd say he's doing the best job he ever has in running the offense. That goes to explain his +/-
     
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  2. chris_in_pdx

    chris_in_pdx OLD SCHOOL

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    If the Blazers could bottle up that 2nd Half and make that the way they play every game, they'd make noise in the playoffs.
     
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    I was thinking the exact same thing last night during the 1st half. Great energy sometimes out of position. I remember one time he ran at 3 point shooter in bottom of zone and so CJ switched to top guy, problem was little went right back up to top guy leaving corner 3 open.
     
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    I'm very happy with Nas right now, even with the boneheaded mistakes he makes some times. Even Chauncey admitted that he's fine for now because he more than makes up for them for them with his hard play. He and Nance have this infectious energy about them. Makes everyone else play harder.

    Also, having a 6'5 dude with 7'2 wingspan allows for a lot flexibility to switch on defense. He has to be on the court.
     
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    Yeah for whatever reason CJ starts games off slow. When he starts off fast he has a huge night. (i.e the 28 point 1st Qtr against the Bulls in 2018)
    But as a general rule, he tends to miss his first couple of shots every game. So you might as well try bringing him off the bench. I mean Little can do that.

    But even though I said from day 1 of the trade that we should start Nance with Nurk, I am wondering now if Nurk would hinder what Nance does best.
    It might take an adjustment period but I still think they should try. However, my first guess is to try it with Dame, CJ, and NP. Bring Little in early for CJ though.
     
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    You’re talking about good adjustments. Billups can make adjustments without good results. At least he’s trying. Could help long term. As I said, Stotts teams could play better without adjustments because of Dame. No adjustments doesn’t mean no improvement in 2nd half.
     
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    what I'm saying is that there are actually stats that can correlate to half-time adjustments and those stats do not support the notion that Billups is a genius at adjustments while Stotts was an idiot robot

    is the correlation 100% proof? no. But other than bias or conjecture, it's what we've got

    by the way, last night, in 1st half Dame had 6 points on 6 shots. In 2nd half, 16 points on 12 shots; 5 assists, 3 turnovers 1st half; 5 assists 1 turnover 2nd half...so Billups got a Dame bump too; half of the 20 point differential
     
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    You guys really missed the "iso" part? "When we missing shots, we come back to old stuff, lot of iso plays."
    He is obviously not happy in his role, but he seems to be more unhappy with hero ball nightmares flashbacks.
    I remember how under Stotts CJ talked openly about himself not listening to the coach and going for hero mode.
    As he said, he may not like his role, but he tries to be professional. I imagine, he can be really pissed, when he see his teammates breaking plays with selfish iso.
     
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    We're great at making season ticket holders watching the game happy, both at home and on the road :)
     
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    And

    "We didn't depend on shot making to win this game... I was proud of that." Billups said.

    It is nothing that Stotts would ever say and it is not what heroballers think.
    So... I hope GM is talking with Billups about trade. Not everybody in this roster are on the same page as coach is. His idea of playing hard seem to work, so I hope GM will buy into him and make trade that Billups needs.
     
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    The energy that Nance and Little bring is infectious, not only to the other players, but to the home crowd which might be part of the explanation of why the team plays much better at home.
     
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    Billup's quote right there is exactly opposite of Stotts. How many games over the years did he roll out the 'We didn't make our shots" excuse?

    Billups is slowly making progress breaking down the old habits.
     
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    https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/...o-1-knicks-lakers-fall-hornets-make-big-jump/
    With how shitty Roco has been playing, Nance has really stepped it up.
     
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    Did anyone say Billups is a genius at adjustments? Who are you arguing with?
     
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    bringing tears of joy to my eyes. If NO goes, he gets credit for Billups.
    Only fair.
     
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    you must think taking everything literal is a superpower
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Almost as bad as last year, ALMOST.
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    IF this team makes the playoffs the only noise you’ll hear is a 4-0 thumping.
     
  20. royo

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    Wrong forum, Lalalander;)
     
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