Time to blow it up and rebuild?

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Rebuild?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. SharpesTriumph

    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    After 23 games the Blazers will be under .500

    Not the start to the season many fans hoped for.

    Is it time to blow up this team and rebuild?
     
  2. Blazinaway

    Blazinaway Well-Known Member

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    Yes, some of us have been saying that for a while, perhaps its Rerun and mediocrity tolerance that determines when one is ready to blow it up
     
  3. AldoTrapani

    AldoTrapani Well-Known Member

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    Ahhhhh I told you so
     
  4. HailBlazers

    HailBlazers RipCity

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    Only if Aldo says so, let us know if he does
     
  5. riverman

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    Need to make a couple trades at the deadline...can start trading on Dec 15th...I think we'll see some movement then but not sure I'd call it "blowing it up"
     
  6. Blazinaway

    Blazinaway Well-Known Member

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    Lets first get rid of this GM and hire a new one first, then make some moves
     
  7. Tince

    Tince Well-Known Member

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    I will never sign off on a rebuild if it involves trading Dame near his prime and more importantly, if Olshey is in charge of the rebuild!
     
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  8. Fez Hammersticks

    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    Neil is too busy making moves around the margins :craphead:
     
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    MickZagger Well-Known Member

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    Why don’t we start by trading away CJ?
     
  10. Tince

    Tince Well-Known Member

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    Still trying to figure out what team is going to want CJ and his contract while giving us something of value in return.
     
  11. Fairly-Hard

    Fairly-Hard Former Member Gone New!

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    Is that guy still posting here?
     
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  12. AldoTrapani

    AldoTrapani Well-Known Member

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    Told you. Ya don’t listen tho. Been telling ya for a few years now. But noooo let’s keep running it back. Let me continue to sip my tea and read this thread
     
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    why try to rebuild with Olshey in charge? He'll just fuck up the drafts
     
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    Time to fire Olshey for sure but if I had my choice it would be time to put everything we can into getting Dame a second star to play with while keeping around enough role players to start winning more games. If that's not realistic then yeah I guess I'd blow it up.

    I would trade Dame to NOLA for Ingram, Hayes and the three Lakers first rounders they have. I would then send two of those Lakers first rounders, CJ and RoCo to Philly for Simmons, Reed and Joe. Then I'd just put Nurk on the block and get whatever young player or picks and expiring contracts I could for him.

    I honestly think we could get most of that done by the trade deadline and have Ant, Norm, Ingram, Simmons and Hayes starting for us for the rest of the season with Nas, Larry and DSJ getting the bulk of our bench minutes. That team would probably make the playoffs and it's young enough to get better in years to come.
     
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    I'm close to not caring about this team as is. If Dame is traded by Olshey I'm done
     
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  18. chris_in_pdx

    chris_in_pdx OLD SCHOOL

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    The entire Blazer organization, top to bottom, is a dumpster fire.

    You've got an owner who never wanted to be an NBA Owner, she inherited the team as part of a billionaire's vast array of holdings. She has no passion for the team. She just lets the people who her brother trusted run the team while she sorts out what she wants to keep and what she wants to sell. The Vulcans have never cared about basketball, only the bottom line.

    You've got a GM who has made otherwise fire-able decisions attempting to build a team around a superstar, all while trying to peer through the vast smoke (but no fire yet) of impropriety during his tenure.

    You've got a CEO who suddenly left his job with no prior indication that he was unhappy or tired of his job. The timing seems suspicious.

    You've got a brand new coach with zero NBA coaching experience, taking command of a completely broken roster with players who don't compliment each other or duplicate skills, and expected to compete in a stacked conference.

    You've got a superstar playing through injury in a vain attempt to keep his team relevant, although the team dysfunction is partially his own fault due to misplaced loyalty to players and coaches he's liked and felt comfortable with over the years, sticking up for them despite on-court failures and deficiencies that even a non-basketball mind could spot a mile away.

    And us fans are caught in purgatory until either Jody Allen sells the team, the team's non-competitiveness tanks ticket sales, or Lillard and/or other prominent players demand trades. Nothing short of an entire organizational reboot is needed, and you can bet your ass that the Vulcans would rather sell the team than risk another mid-2000s cash hemorrhage.

    Dark days ahead.
     
  19. Fez Hammersticks

    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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  20. LayneStaley

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    I thought Oprah was buying the team.

    We are actually less fun to watch than last year. I love Dame but he might be out of the new timeline, I think if The Godfather package is out there you take it. Fuck CJ.
     

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