If she carries the pregnancy to that point she likely chose to become a mother and have a baby. The tragedy of her death shouldn't change that.
Would that be saying the choice was made at some point then prior to birth and that all women who give birth made the decision prior to to ing birth, basically legitimizing calling the fetus a separate life.. at some point prior to birthing? Meaning its a life at some point prior to birthing?
So women can be on and off and on and off until they gives birth? And each woman can be on and off again as they please? I do believe there should be a consensus.
I'm not certain what you're getting at, and feel like this is going down a path of many hypotheticals and analagoies, but I was simply responding to, if she dies during child birth, it would seem she clearly chose to carry that baby that long. A woman choosing to carry to term doesn't immediately change the status of the fetus, though, IMO, if that is what you're trying to get at. I don't know what you mean by there should be a consensus. A woman can't change her mind?
not trying to argue. Just understand. What i mean by consensus is there should be one general line for when a fetus is considered a life. I don't see it good that one woman can consider it life after three months and another not until birthed. Seems like there should be a consensus or the same argument will keep spawning up?
No. I mean not able to breathe on their own. Many babies need help at birth(not many as in majority. many, as in its not extremely rare)
If science determines a fetus is a separate living entity after 6 months, would pro abortioners comply?
The consensus is when it is born. One woman deciding after 3 months to terminate versus one choosing to carry to term means little, IMO. That's those women making a personal choice about what to do with a fetus growing inside their body.
Is that the scientific consensus or populous consensus? This is where i think many feel there is a double standard though. Who is ruling about life? Science? Or the fetus carrier, who onows her own body but not science? i mean we are told to trust and abide by science. If science says the fetus is not its own life until its borthed, then im not sure what the argument is. If science says that life begins earlier, than don't pro lifers have a point based on science? and when does an individual have the right to overrule science? If science says that the overrule will then affect the life of the fetus?
I don't think there is a double standard. I think really, there is never going to be a true "consensus". "Science" can rule that it begins after a woman gives birth. Then what? Religious people opposed to abortion are going to immediately accept that view? Of course not. Many hold a belief that life begins at conception. Good luck getting people to change that belief. Many believe a woman should have a right to choose what to do with her body, and again, it'll be tough to talk people off of that stance.
It's not an issue of science, IMO. It's an issue of societal impact. If jerking off is not considered murder than neither should killing other cells. Murder is not illegal because of science or religion. It's illegal because there is a devastating social impact around that kind of violence and loss. There is an incredibly negative impact on society. We know that making abortion illegal also has an incredibly negative impact on society. Science tells us the most positive outcome for society is to educate everyone to the best of our ability and empower women to choose.
because some believe, and have the right to believe, that women aren't the end all creators of l life and there is a larger force that has answered that for them. And for those who believe God created life, woman's decision means little compared to Gods. Just like mans decision means little compared to God. So no. I doubt people will mind their own business…
I did. You brought up science, so I tried to tie science into it the best way possible. If you are using the scientific method while looking at this issue, that is where it will lead you. I gave you the benefit of the doubt and didn't spell that all out, thinking you were interested in having an actual conversation. I do apologize if I was mistaken.
