But yet when trying to discuss things its okay to be told to go fuck myself. Trying to have a discussion about when a fetus is considered life and when abortions shouldn't happen because of this is soo bad. No one is telling a certain someone we have the right to discuss either. This all got derailed when a certain someone jumped in with passive aggressive bullshit and others supported that behavior. After seeing such behavior supported, I lose the motive to discuss on the up and up with anyone who supports that shit. so im not really into this anymore. Too much selective bias on devolvement, derailment and the like… Its a one sided convo around here because of the selective bias exhibited by many.
So if a woman comes in and says she absolutely positively wants an abortion do you refer her to Planned Parenthood? Help her navigate all the hoops men make women jump through to prove we are worthy of making our own life decisions? I know, a good handmaiden should be polite while her civil rights are taken away. I don't feel polite. I am polite to those who consider me fully human, not an earthen vessel.
I wasn't addressing you with my post or your back and forth with crandc....my post was aimed at the topic, not a forum member....trying to "have" a conversation had nothing to do with you....no need to drag me into it unless you want to address protecting fertility and banning sterilization or contraception.....I have many Catholics in my family tree and it's been a topic for a long time. The whole concept that sex is for procreation and not recreation is a Christian fundamentalist stance....as I mentioned...the fundamentalist Islamics have many sex taboos in their rule book and punishment is cruel for straying. Whatever......this thread is not all about you dude. I agree with crandc on the subject...maybe that's where you have a problem with my posting a pro choice statement. Nobody is stopping you from poking holes in the opposing view.
As long as she's making her own choice and not being coerced nobody has a problem with that. It looks like the programs you support engage in coercion at minimum, and possibly worse. This is why it should just be her own choice and our education system should educate our youth, and our social services should have approved documentation to share, and the doctor should answer any questions she may have.
A friend of mine is a practicing Catholic. Went to Mass every Sunday until pandemic. She drove a colleague to an appointment for an abortion. She said although it conflicted with church teaching she felt she could not judge choice another person made in a situation she herself never faced. Then went to Confession.
You can't generate income by having kids unless you make them work for you. Kids cost more than any government benefit provides.
not true in all cases. I specifically know a person who had a fourth child that increased her government subsidy by more than it cost on average for the third child. Creating a net green on the fourth child.
Ive spent time traveling through the south and there are gals of all races down there popping out babies to increase their welfare checks.
There a stark difference between the government pressing towards abortion, and abortion rights........and not.
does that matter when so many say if you voted for a person you support racism???? Or if you vote republican you are for taking womens rights away? Dont act like this forum only singles out single issue voters as a problem… its been pretty clear here for several years you are “this” if you voted for that person, Period.
Does it matter if ABM is a one-issue voter? No, it does not matter. Is it puzzling that he claims that there are 'many, many reasons to vote for a President' when it was pointed out to him that he votes solely for anti-abortion candidates? Yes, it is puzzling. Does your attempt to change the subject matter? No, it does not matter. barfo
I'm not sure what you mean by this. Are you trying to justify being an anti-abortion voter, or denying that you are one? barfo
