OT If you praised Chauncy Billups please raise your hand and take a step forward

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  1. julius

    julius Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Why, was there an opening in the custodian staff?
     
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    I like Stotts....always did...he coached a revolving roster of 170 different Blazer players and kept a positive locker room....guys liked playing for him....I loved Chauncey's leadership in his career and was all onboard bringing him in but it hasn't been seamless and he is a rookie dealing with issues vet coaches don't think about...growing pains. When it comes to Stotts I think he realized he had roster and health issues season after season....last season put 19 different starting lineups on the floor looking to find that chemistry....Chauncey has not developed much offensive strategy so far and hasn't cleaned up the string defense as quickly as I anticipated....honestly I think Stotts would've won more games so far than Chauncey but this season Chauncey has a very huge learning curve....coaching changes are always a crap shoot but I respect Terry Stotts approach to dealing with so much roster instability and injury and still making the dance year after year....fact is we may not make the playoffs this season. The team right now is losing my interest
     
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    It's not enough to be a good coach in the abstract. Coach and team need to fit. I remember how successful Rick Adelman was in Portland and Sacramento but absolutely bombed at Golden State. Maybe Billups and team as constituted just aren't a good fit.
     
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    Being a really good player doesn't necessarily make you a really good coach. Episode 982.

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    25 games into the first year of a coach being a head coach is a horrible way to judge a coach. Episode 1 and 3.

    Example: Rick Adelmans first 24 games as the head coach of the Blazers? 9-15
     
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    I support Chauncey but I've lost the excitement I had preseason about team defensive improvement. Chauncey has a lot of problems to sort out as it is.
     
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    Just a question: What would be Blazers record if Lillard plays on his normal level?
    If you want to prise Stotts you can't ignore the fact, that Lillard hero ball was Stotts best weapon to win games.
    Now, give Stotts Lillard from this season and let's talk it again.
     
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    then enter, stage left, Buck Williams and Cliff Robinson
     
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    Lillard played some of the best defense of his career early during his shooting slump and yes....we're last in defense in the whole league....we're a work in progress right now and there's really no sugar coating it....what would Lillard be like if he skipped the Olympics? There are lots of factors in where we are as a team right now...Roco was much better under Stotts than Billups...that's one factor. He's become a worse defender and he was our best defender
     
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    This thread seems rather odd.

    The data on Stotts covers 13 years with 3 teams. It is fair to say he is an OK regular season coach and a very poor play-off coach. The data set for Billups is less than half a season. It doesn't take a PHD in math to see that is not a statistically sound comparison.

    BTW, don't worry. I am just passing through. The end of the Stotts and Olshey team came way too late for me. Best of luck to those who still care about the team.
     
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    What about if I want to praise him now? I appreciate the lack of filter, and the honesty to how he deals with the press.
     
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    @Lanny as many seasons of this team that you have seen and you're going to take this small sample size to formulate your opinion on the new coach in the new roster? Little it has been playing pretty terrible all season and folks are getting used to hedging on defense. The team also has many new players and is in need of a roster balancing. Be patient.
     
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    I do think players should not be publicly called out. Keep it in the locker room.
     
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    Stotts was an extremely, extremely bad Coach in the Playoffs. Dude got killed by Gentry and the fucking Pelicans, and in several other series he had no clue what to do
     
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    Funny how so many players got worse after we changed the coach
     
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    I imagine you mean pre-preseason. Because in the preseason we were comfortably the absolute worst team in the NBA.
     
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    trying to share the ball more with new teammates has often led to turnovers and transition buckets for the other team....we asked our shooters to pass more who are good shooters but poor passers...that has something to do with it or the fact that playing defense or trying to is taking some lift off their legs on offense....two way players have to be iron men..we haven't been a great passing team since Andre Miller and Nic Batum were Blazers
     
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    So the coach is asking the players to do what they can't do. Odd thing for a good coach to do - unless you're a high school coach who cares only about teaching, not winning.
     
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    If Chauncey was a hall-of-fame coach, then I would have no problem with his approach (and probably neither would the players, RoCo included). But he ain't. And yet, he's saying to professionals who have had success: "my way or the highway". Yes, he's the coach, but we've all had bosses who've tried this shit that you know didn't have the expertise to justify their arrogance.
     
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    So he could play the next journeyman in front of Nassir Little? No. Just no.
     
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