Politics The Joe Biden Thread

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  1. UncleCliffy'sDaddy

    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    While I find the cost of so called “higher” education unconscionable, I struggle with the concept that those students got “fucked over by a corrupt, broken system”. They (or their parents) signed on the bottom line. They bought into the fallacy that financial success was contingent on a four year degree. They went in with their eyes wide open, whether they did their due diligence or not. It’s like saying they want debt forgiveness for their mortgage because they didn’t realize they couldn’t afford that particular house when they signed the papers. It’s not on the rest of us to pay for their lack of foresight (or their gullibility). Yes, the situation sucks big time…..like a lot of situations we put ourselves in. My wife and I just finished paying off one son’s student loans (16 years after he graduated….and we were happy to do so). But we knew what we were getting into. No way I can condemn the system, even if I wanted to. I willingly chose to participate, just as everyone else did who took on a student loan. I paid my obligations and I have no desire to pick up the tab for those who can’t or won’t. And, shamefully, I find it ironic (and even amusing) that these so called “educated” people were such lemmings who followed each other over the financial cliff despite the clanging alarm bells. Makes you wonder just how smart these folks really were in the first place……
     
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    brilliant!
     
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    18-22 year olds can be quite stupid. No arguments there.
     
  4. UncleCliffy'sDaddy

    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    Hey, I joined the Navy on my 18th birthday. That’s how “smart” I was……..
     
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  6. riverman

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    you and me both!
     
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    I get what you’re saying, they DID make the decision themselves. But, I personally think there is a predatory aspect to it. Going to college is beaten into your brain from kindergarten, the stigma of being a failure is tied directly to that. Adding to that the fact that colleges are for-profit institutions being pushed as the lone option just doesn’t quite sit right. I graduated high school fourteen years ago and at that time, they’d let a crackhead in the school to talk to the kids before they’d let in a representative from a trade school.
     
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    What people never realize that the 'corrupt, broken system' was incentivized to become that way by government intervention.
    It reminds me of the old saying - the path to hell is paved with good intentions.
     
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    I don't think this is about feeling sorry for those poor individuals. I think it's a shitty system which is bad for the economy and certainly bad for society. It holds us back as a country.

    I think it's good to pay off current student loans in same bill that offers education for free. Or at least offers a free option for everyone who maintains a minimum GPA.

    I don't go in much for passing legislation because I feel sorry for people.
     
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    Government was involved before that. Privatization is what wrecked it. For profit institutions using "education" to extract money from students via the government.
     
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    Yes - Government was involved from the very beginning. However, the government also intervened and changed the incentive structure.
    Almost anyone who can fog a mirror can get a loan. That is only possible because the government guarantees all the loans.

    Private loans and schools have been around for ages. Yet it was never a problem until the government changed the rules and incentive structure.
     
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    The government changed the rules because private industry (including banks) now own the government. The solution is to make government resistant to the influence of private industry, not removing government support for education.
     
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    Term limits and making it tougher on lobbyist to buy politicians would change the motivation for who want's to be elected to congress. Then, maybe they could get something done.
     
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    You're never going to change college scholarships from sports to academics......that's the college problem...fueling sports. It's also where people who don't give a shit about getting a degree take up funding because they can catch a football or run a 4 minute mile.....there are plenty of trade schools and always have been....growing up in the farmlands college wasn't as popular other trade schools available...I went to school to learn to run farm equipment ..combines, etc....that was offered in high school if you wanted to pay for it and take the courses....I tried WIT electronic school for a semester as well and found I didn't like it at all. I got my degree in bits and pieces.....took years as I had kids at a young age....couldn't take 4 years off and just study. There are ways to do it...I took night courses in stretches and that's how I got my second language certification to teach. During the day I had a job. Took mixology courses and learned bartending by night school as well....paid for it out of pocket....that license paid for itself over and over again....kids who don't use their education to further their careers are just there to party and go to football games and get drunk....I don't need to pay their loans off. If you're motivated you won't come out of education feeling like a victim....you'll make it work for you
     
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    Nice. Great education. I wasn't as enterprising. Nonetheless, I've turned 1) showing up on time 2) being genuinely interested 3) getting along with others 4) working hard 5) supporting my superiors into good careers. Now? I'm in 100% commission sales. THE BEST EVER!!
     
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    I have a biology degree. Didn't get rich but I suppose that wasn't my priority.
     
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    On the surface, why do Asians and East Indians appear to be much more intelligent than Americans? Is it they just apply themselves more and don't take education for granted?
     
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    Kinda cruel.

    https://www.bostonherald.com/2021/12/16/howie-carr-joe-biden-is-off-his-rocker-or-should-be-in-one/

    Joe Biden is off his rocker … or should be in one

    It’s Weekend at Biden’s, and Dementia Joe is already gearing up for the 2022 mid-term elections.

    “I want to tell my Republican friends, Get ready, Bal!”

    Does anyone know who this “Bal” person is? But the president continued calling Bal out:

    “You’re gonna in for a problem!”

    Remember that, Bal. Next year, you’re gonna in for a problem!

    These are the words of Dementia Joe Biden, and all dialogue is guaranteed verbatim.

    All quotes come from right here in the United States of America, or as Joe called it at one whistle stop this week, “the United Steak of Amerifa for God’s sake.”

    For God’s sake indeed. And have you checked the price of United Steaks lately? It’s all the fault of “the meat conglomerate,” as his flack, the gasoline-hair-colored Jen Psaki, explained.

    But it’s not just the greedy meat conglomerate that’s been gouging Americans, or should I say Amerifans? Since Jan. 20, all the conglomerates that Trump somehow kept in check, with inflation almost nonexistent, have started reaping “windfall profits.”

    The producer price index is up 9.6%, year over year. A “grim milestone” of 800,000 COVID deaths in the U.S. was reached this week, but none of Dementia Joe’s caregivers in the media even blinked an eye.

    But help, he announced, is on the way to what he described as “the infected area.”

    “A hundred and 44 thousand liters of drinking water, 24,000 meals uh you know uh uh I I just 74,000 and look thousands of cots and blankets look there are seven, seven shelters open in Kentucky which are now taking care of 300 occupants but a lot more is gonna open.”

    That is a relief, no doubt.

    You may have heard talk on television about something called “inflation.” Don’t worry, though, Joe assured the good people of Kansas City that help is on the way to your local gas station.

    “The average price you’re paying here in Kansas City is below two dollars a gallon uh, three dollars a gallon it’s down to 2.90 a gallon, 20% down from cents for from uh a month ago.”

    Would it surprise you to learn that Biden forgot the name of the mayor he was appearing with — “under the leadership of (pause) mayors like uh you know our mayor here.”

    He channeled Joe Stalin as he spoke of the so-called election reform bill: “The struggle is no long just who gets to get or making it easier for eligible to vote, it’s about who gets to count the vote.”

    And to keep counting, and counting, until the totals come out right. That way, Democrats can overcome the “elexive subversion,” as he put it, which is presumably the fault of Bal and the rest of the GOP.

    Whatever ails Joe is, apparently contagious. He was joined at one point this week by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who is even older than Dementia Joe, and she too pushed for his outrageous BBB bill, summing it up thusly:

    “The best two words to use are: It lowers cost.”

    Two words? May we quote you on that? Madame Speaker. It reminds Joe’s fans of the day he mentioned his own favorite “three-letter word: jobs. J-O-B-S.”

    Here are a few more of Dementia Joe’s Greatest Hits this week:

    “They’re paying at higher tax rate than someone making a trillion dollars, I mean a billion dollars, for real.”

    “And you qualified for federal aid you got ‘em just enough much of dam — of money money to get exactly what it looked like before.”

    “You soul what you can soul, you don’t have the money to get it done, well my pan my plan addresses that.”

    “I, I took 50 billion barrels, million barrels out outta the they call it the Oil Petroleum Reserve.”

    “Nobel 17 Nobel winners of the ec-ec-ec-economics have written a letter.”

    “So you know so Mom can, Grandmom can walk out without having ah ah out of her porch without fallin’, can take care of herself, can be left alone.”

    Let’s close with Speaker Pelosi’s spoken Christmas, er holiday card to Dementia Joe:

    “Mr. President it’s an honor and of course a pleasure to be here at this time of challenge and with the coronavirus the national insecurity for families and national disasters and what our country could not be more could not be better served than with this most experienced capable hands than yours, President Biden.”

    She then added of Dementia Joe, “He’s just perfect. The timing couldn’t be better.”

    Especially if you’re China, Russia, Iran or North Korea.

    However, if you’re here in the United Steak of Amerifa, in 2022 you’re gonna in for a problem. At least if your name is Bal.

    What a difference a year makes.

    And now the president vows, yet again, to reduce the price of “prescription jugs,” which he also called “perstiption drugs.” Some of these jugs cost as much as $1,000 a dose, he said, even though they cost only “10 bucks to delep.”

    Biden was one busy geezer this past week. He did a Zoom interview with a reputed comedian he called “Jim” Kimmel. He lauded the “Vicepresidentment” and her husband, whom he described both as the “First Gentleman” and as the “Second Gentleman.”

    He talked a lot about his wife Jill — excuse me, “Dr.” Jill. Biden called her “an amazing first later lady uh I I don’t know how she does it.” He praised her as “scintillating,” which he pronounced as “sense-alating.”

    “My wife Jill,” he said elsewhere, “is a first is a full-time teacher.”

    He also found time to denounce autocracies, which he called “autocra-skies,” without elaborating whether they were Alpine or cross-country autocra-skies.

    Biden was on the road this week, to Kansas City first and then to Kentucky, one of the states devastated by the tornadoes, or as he called the storm last weekend, a “hurricane.”

    But help, he announced, is on the way to what he described as “the infected area.”

    “A hundred and 44 thousand liters of drinking water, 24,000 meals uh you know uh uh I I just 74,000 and look thousands of cots and blankets look there are seven, seven shelters open in Kentucky which are now taking care of 300 occupants but a lot more is gonna open.”

    That is a relief, no doubt.

    You may have heard talk on television about something called “inflation.” Don’t worry, though, Joe assured the good people of Kansas City that help is on the way to your local gas station.

    “The average price you’re paying here in Kansas City is below two dollars a gallon uh, three dollars a gallon it’s down to 2.90 a gallon, 20% down from cents for from uh a month ago.”

    Would it surprise you to learn that Biden forgot the name of the mayor he was appearing with — “under the leadership of (pause) mayors like uh you know our mayor here.”

    He channeled Joe Stalin as he spoke of the so-called election reform bill: “The struggle is no long just who gets to get or making it easier for eligible to vote, it’s about who gets to count the vote.”

    And to keep counting, and counting, until the totals come out right. That way, Democrats can overcome the “elexive subversion,” as he put it, which is presumably the fault of Bal and the rest of the GOP.

    Whatever ails Joe is, apparently contagious. He was joined at one point this week by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who is even older than Dementia Joe, and she too pushed for his outrageous BBB bill, summing it up thusly:

    “The best two words to use are: It lowers cost.”

    Two words? May we quote you on that? Madame Speaker. It reminds Joe’s fans of the day he mentioned his own favorite “three-letter word: jobs. J-O-B-S.”

    Here are a few more of Dementia Joe’s Greatest Hits this week:

    “They’re paying at higher tax rate than someone making a trillion dollars, I mean a billion dollars, for real.”

    “And you qualified for federal aid you got ‘em just enough much of dam — of money money to get exactly what it looked like before.”

    “You soul what you can soul, you don’t have the money to get it done, well my pan my plan addresses that.”

    “I, I took 50 billion barrels, million barrels out outta the they call it the Oil Petroleum Reserve.”

    “Nobel 17 Nobel winners of the ec-ec-ec-economics have written a letter.”

    “So you know so Mom can, Grandmom can walk out without having ah ah out of her porch without fallin’, can take care of herself, can be left alone.”

    Let’s close with Speaker Pelosi’s spoken Christmas, er holiday card to Dementia Joe:

    “Mr. President it’s an honor and of course a pleasure to be here at this time of challenge and with the coronavirus the national insecurity for families and national disasters and what our country could not be more could not be better served than with this most experienced capable hands than yours, President Biden.”

    She then added of Dementia Joe, “He’s just perfect. The timing couldn’t be better.”

    Especially if you’re China, Russia, Iran or North Korea.

    However, if you’re here in the United Steak of Amerifa, in 2022 you’re gonna in for a problem. At least if your name is Bal.
     
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    How "Moderates" Serve The Right.



    I am placing this video here due to the fact that Biden is supposedly a "moderate" democrat.
     

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