These are Sexton's numbers btw. And Ant's: The contract Sexton gets should be the comp for Ant (and vice versa).
It’s funny because I have heard this kind of thing for years, and I don’t think I have ever seen the payoff.
he did the same with CJ's trade, so there is precedence. Apples/Oranges with this situation but still, some guidelines perhaps, into how Cronin does business.
I just remember hearing at least several times that Neil was doing some agent a solid and I don’t think I ever remember it helping us.
if the Blazers are letting the market decide Ant's next salary, then there are only a few teams that could theoretically offer him a max deal.With a 121M salary cap, and from BBREF (2nd column is next season): Chicago is no threat and neither is Memphis considering they'll be trying to extend Morant this summer Indiana? they have Brogdon & Hield locked up on long term deals; and they are decent contracts. They have TJ McConnell locked up on a 4 year deal that is leas than MLE money. And they have Tyrese Haliburton and Chris Duarte on rookie contracts. They are no threat Detroit? They have Cade Cunningham and Killian Hayes playing PG, along with Cory Joseph. They also have Diallo and Jackson at guard. And they have a 20M cap-hold on Bagley that cap-number above doesn't account for. Unlikely to be a Simons suitor, but possible Orlando? that's a deceptive number above. They have a 31M cap-hold for Gary Harris; a 21M cap-hold for Wendall Carter; and a 23M cap-hold for Mo Bamba. They have to renounce all three in order to clear enough space for Simons. They also have Cole Anthony and Jalen Suggs filling the role that Simons plays. They are no threat San Antonio? They have newly-minted all-star Dejonte Murray at PG. They just traded for Josh Richardson. They have Lonnie Walker at SG as well and he has a 13.3M cap-hold this summer. And McDermott is signed for two more years. The Spurs would have to juggles things and renounce Walker to make a max offer. Unlikely to be a Simons suitor so that makes Detroit and San Antonio as the only 2 possible threats, and circumstances makes both unlikely plus, every team would know that the Blazers are sure to match so that means the only teams that may make an offer are any teams that want to fuck with Portland's future cap & tax situation. I see only one team that might fit: OKC now, that number above show OKC only 15M below the cap. But if you pull up their team page: it shows them more than 40M below the cap. BB Insiders says they only have 69M in guaranteed salary, but they haven't done a trade deadline update yet. So the Thunder almost certainly have the space to make Ant a max offer. But would they? go back to 2015. The Aldridge team had just broken up. Portland had gobs of cap-space. They offered Greg Monroe a max deal but he refused. They turned to Aminu and Ed Davis, signed both, but still had the space for a max deal. So, Olshey decided to send a fuck you to Presti and OKC by making a max offer to Enes Kanter. Could it be time for payback even though Paul Allen and Olshey are gone? I don't know but I'd think OKC is by far the biggest threat.
I don't think Detroit holds off on offering Simons a ton of money over Killian Hayes. I think they offer him a boatload of money.
considering how quickly Cronin dumped Powell's 5 year deal, Blazers might prefer a 4 year contract there's also the fact that while Portland can offer 8% step raises, another team can only offer 5% raises. That can make a 5M difference over 4 years
I worry if we just send him out to get an offer for us to match, someone is going to sign him to a crappy deal for us, like 3 years with a player option after 2 sort of situation. I much prefer to lock him in for 5.
Yeah, that's another angle I hadn't thought about, but I agree that there's some major risk in sending him out to see what he can get.
No, not at all. I do think we will make him a good offer. Sorry, I quoted you, but I guess wasn't really responding to what you had said, was just kind of piggy backing off of the thought of what another teams offer could look like. And just expressing my desire to lock him up long term if we believe in him. Because it'd be a disaster to have a 2-1 contract, letting him become an UFA at 24 years old, if he continued this progression.
by the way, I just ran the numbers using the projected 121M salary cap. If the math is right, a max 5 year offer for Simons will be 175M....that's 35M/year. a Max 4 year deal in an offer sheet would be 32.5M/year. It would be a 4-year/130M deal. Do people really think some team is going to offer that?
well, I only think there is one team that could make a max offer to Simons that might. And that's OKC, and like I said, they might want some payback for Kanter. I doubt they'd bother though
From what I saw OKC won't have nearly that much capspace because SGA's extension is kicking in, I think they are near 98-99 mil and that is I think without picks but does include Favors opting in for 10 mil which I think he almost certainly does.
I'm not sure what his value is around the league. He's still very young. He's playing very well. I'd say that there's a good chance he has a shot at MIP and that will help his value.
