Thank you. I was so confused about his take on Stockton that I missed the part about screens. When has Dame EVER run off screens without the ball? He usually has the ball in his hands.
Pick wouldn't be 14th, it would be ahead of a few east teams so around 11th. I'd say the pick has more value than the expected value of the 2025 Bucks pick. It seems like your point is Cronin will trade away the pick for an insignificant veteran that is a bad move, so it's better to get an asset worth less because then the GM isn't able to trade it? Cronin could still trade the Bucks pick for a useless veteran though. Basically shows you believe Cronin is a poor GM, which I agree with.
Yeah it boogles my mind Jody and Vulcan gave Cronin the authority to trade away 4 starters that could either win now or acquired other talent to win with Dame. Instead we dumped them for cap space and "flexibility". What a golden ticket ... But that ship has sailed. There is no realistic way to build a contender around Dame.
I'm not comparing playing styles, I'm comparing the bodies of NBA players and wondering how it is that Dame's body will somehow age more rapidly than most other NBA players. The only reason I can think of is because it fits the narrative of those advocating for Dame to be traded as for Stockton, you were the one than entered his name into the discussion as a comp for CP3. Then, right after that, you tried to make a case that Curry would somehow age better because he runs off screens a lot more than Dame. What is the difference between a screen and the pick in PnR? That's simply a screen by another name. And both Stockton and Dame have run off those PnR screens for a big part of their offense for a majority of their careers. Why do the screens Curry runs around without the ball lengthen his career and the screens Dame runs around with the ball shortens his career?
Awkward for sure... but when you think about it, the original statement that we traded away guys who can win now, who weren't winning now, is equally as awkward. I'm also in the minority of people who didn't mind making the playoffs every year even though the odds of winning it all was very slim. One season like this I can stomach, but man having to go through multiple seasons like this in a row would be brutal. Feels like the LAC/NOP game is the biggest Blazer game of the year.
that doesn't make the argument any more logical...it's not. Curry is still running; pounding his legs on the hardwood. Who runs more in a game, Dame or Curry?
Good question. Those trades reduced the team's overall talent - but in many respects the team played better after they left. What if RoCo/Nance/Powell/CJ had been traded for roughly equal talent - but guys who were willing to play hard and buy into what Billups was trying to do? What if those 4 guys had made an honest effort to buy into what Billups was trying to do? Obviously, it's all guesswork.
Just out of curiosity, who do you think takes more of a physical beating? Since the refs tend to call fouls when Curry gets whacked, I'm inclined to say Dame.
what if no team was willing to do that? and what if no team assigned them the value that some posters here have? and what if whatever value those guys had was degraded by their contracts? before that sets you off I want to say for the 30th time I don't think Cronin all possible value for those 4 guys. But I also think many are underestimating the value of clearing 190M dollars off the Blazer books; or the value of 30M in TPE's
As I said, it is all guesswork. We know what wasn't done, but we don't know for sure why, and we can only speculate on how the alternative would have turned out.
Dame has a much higher FT rate, so he's getting more whistles than Curry. Dame probably absorbs more contact but I don't think drawing shooting fouls will shorten a player's career. what will definitely shorten a player's career is an accumulation of injuries. Scar tissue is a real thing, and Curry has had a hell of a lot more injuries
We know that no players that we would have wanted was traded for a player with similar size, skillset, and contract as the players you mentioned. That seems like a pretty decent indicator...
Curry has had his share of injuries - no argument there. Let me rephrase what I was trying to say. I believe Dame takes more of a pounding night-in-and-night-out than Curry, and that a lower percentage of the hits result in whistles. YMMV
I think everything hinges on NO pick and obviously how high out 1st pick is. I can see a team wanting to blow it up if they fail this season. Say a team like clippers, Boston, Toronto, Miami decide they won’t be a championship team and decide for natural rebuild, we could potentially have two first rounds to trade with possible top 3 pick. That is type of package that could get you Siakam, Paul George, jimmy butler etc. team one of them up with our current roster and we become borderline championship contender. Then if little or Simons blow up you become a contender. This is absolutely your best chance at becoming a championship team during Dames time.
