OT Roe V Wade In Trouble

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  1. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    The 26 states that are ready to do an outright ban of abortion if Roe v Wade is overturned, does anyone know if any of that was ballot measure or were all by state legislative?
     
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    julius Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Ha, you think states that want to take away womens rights want to give people the chance to vote for it?
     
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    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Rubio "Our tax code should be pro-family and promote a culture of life," Rubio told Fox News. "Instead, too often our corporations find loopholes to subsidize the murder of unborn babies or horrific 'medical' treatments on kids."

    Wait, the tax code should be what now?

    And NOW he's worried about loopholes??

    Fuck him with a dull fork.
     
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    Legislative, not popular vote. Some of those laws are a hundred years old, preempted by Roe, but never taken off the books.

    House passed reproductive freedom act which Moscow Mitch filibustered in Senate. And real possibility supremacist court could overturn national law.
    There have been other reactionary decisions, Dred Scott and Plessy among most infamous. But both those cases upheld gross injustice, slavery and segregation. They did not re-establish injustice. Never before has the court taken away a civil right. They gutted voting rights act and equal pay act but did not flat out say Black people can't be allowed to vote. Just that it's OK to make it really really hard to do so.
    This is an extremely radical unprecedented decision that established court can take away any civil rights. As has been mentioned, birth control, marriage equality, even interracial marriage could be next.
    During confirmation hearings, Alito, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and Barrett all said Roe was established law, confirmed several times by court. They all lied. Under oath.
     
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    Is this like all the people that claimed they were moving out of the country in 2016 if Trump won, and then stayed right here? As someone living in a red state, I'm not seeing what you are with people leaving in droves, in fact people seem to be tripping over themselves to move to Texas.

    According to the census, these are the states showing the highest population growth since 2010:
      1. Utah – population +18.37%
      2. Idaho – population +17.32%
      3. Texas – population +15.91%
      4. North Dakota – population +15.83%
      5. Nevada – population +14.96%
      6. Colorado – population +14.8%
      7. Washington – population +14.58%
      8. Florida – population +14.56%
      9. Arizona – population +11.88%
      10. South Carolina – population +10.66%
    Interesting that you have the top 4 are all red states and Florida is growing despite claims of otherwise ... again this isn't perfect as you're talking about 'young' people but just like in 16 ... it's so much easier to say you're going to leave, than to actually do it!
     
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    The Great Pendulum!
    Go ahead and swing it that far right! They will not see another Republican president for 20 years!
    Your vote matters! White women might even vote for a white woman?
     
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    Lied under oath during confirmation hearings about how they would do their job should be grounds for impeachment, no? Or, at the very least, restructuring the court.
     
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    This is actually a good thing. The more people who move there the less red those states may become.
     
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    Lest you think my 18th century references were hyperbole, Alito quoted heavily one Judge Hale, an 18th century British jurist who legally established that men have the right to rape their wives, and personally ordered two women burned at the stake for witchcraft. Kind of legal mind Republicans admire.
     
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    Maybe ... maybe not ... only time will tell. From what I've seen in Texas, it seems like it's drawing out more of the republicans to the polls to try and make sure that their state (or as some here still view it 'country') doesn't get overrun by those 'stupid Californians' or where ever they are moving from.
     
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    I dont think this list indicates anything about young smart people and the idea of leaving. I don’t necessarily think that would ever happen but this list is a bunch of red states plus CO and WA. Young smart people are “leaving” for 8/10 of those states
     
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    Yes ... which is why I put that at the end of the post but it is showing where people are moving. How many of those that said they were leaving in 16 actually followed through, I don't know of any. The threat of moving away is usually just that, a threat because more often than not people gravitate to what they know and what is comfortable.
     
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    That's fine. The numbers will only hold up so long... As people move to those states for the cheap property they'll overwhelm the ignorant hicks.
     
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    I know people who moved to Montana *because* they wanted to be around ignorant hicks. Not because they wanted to take advantage of them, they wanted to be away from the diversity of Portland.

    And whats funny about it? They're an older couple, early 80's, and their daughter's in her mid 50's...their daughter looks hispanic, yet hates non whites.

    I could never wrap my brain around that.
     
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    I have one family member that said he was going to and now that he's retiring at the end of the schoolyear, he's actually doing it. Got a flat somewhere in Paris. I'm excited to visit!
     
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    The blanket statements thrown out here by some on the internet really is amazing. Makes me wonder if people really think this way or there is some condition about being behind a keyboard that brings it out.
     
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    One of the main reasons is because it’s not easy to do. You don’t just pack up and move to Canada. If it was easy I think you’d see a lot more people do it. I’d live in Vancouver.
     
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    Your post seems kind of like a blanket statement. Care to be more specific?
     
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    Unless it's all Republicans moving there to get out of blue states
     
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