Notice Joe Cronin New GM

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  1. bigbailes

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    Not getting back a 2nd lottery pick this year is a big red flag to me ... instead settling for the Bucks pick that at best looks to be in the early 20's. The main problem I have with Cronin is that I'm very skeptical it was his 'vision' at all at the deadline and instead Jody/Vulcans telling him to cut and slash payroll while getting back .50 on the $1. Like anyone else in this position he deserves to be given a fair shake and I appreciate his relationship with Billups but his leash is a pretty short one with me (not that it matters what me, you or anyone on here really thinks).
     
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    oldmangrouch persona non grata

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    How sad that "can't be worse than Olshey" is all we ask.
     
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    so then, if Paul George hadn't got Covid and the Clips had beat the Pels, there would be no red flag?
     
  4. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Not surprised. Let's see what he does in rebuilding this team. I'm looking forward to seeing what is accomplished this offseason.

    Cronin is getting his chance, I hope he makes the best of it.
     
  5. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    I dont think thats the point. Not having any reasonable contingency if the Pels somehow made the playoffs is just negligence.
     
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    ...pretty sure Big Joe was behind the Perez team:biglaugh:
     
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    Sedatedfork Rip City Rhapsody

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    Was thinking the same thing, just didn’t want to say it
     
  8. Chris Craig

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    Like if the Pelicans make the playoffs we get the Lakers pick type of contingency?
     
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    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    Jeez, I didn't think Nash had even that much on the ball.......
     
  10. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    or something that's better than that MIL 2025 pick that is fairly inconsequential in the present situation where the tenet is to build around Dame.
     
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    That he didn't back it up and protect the pick by getting the better of the Pels/Lakers pick when LA was in a free fall is a red flag. I want a GM with some foresight, not just taking what is handed to them.
     
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    that's not what he said...."2nd lottery pick this year". That narrows it down to either getting the Lakers pick from the Pels....

    or some other imaginary team giving up a lottery pick for Powell, RoCo, or Nance....which of course is ridiculous

    I have suggested before that maybe, Cronin might have got the better of either the Lakers or Pels pick, both top-4 protected. But at the time the Lakers were 9th seed, only a half game out of 8th seed and 4 games ahead of NOP.

    but if Cronin had got that deal, and the Lakers leap-frog into the top-4 in the lottery, is Cronin back to being an idiot?
     
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    If he’d lost both first round picks they would have made him President.
     
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    the Lakers ween't in free fall yet. If they had been it's doubtful the Pels would have cooperated
     
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    regardless, i've explained my thoughts on his deals ad nauseum and i'm of the belief that this CJ deal did not necessarily have to be done at the time. Don't really wanna rehash. The point in the end of it all still remains, he got pretty shitty return. Not sure how that consideration in a vacuum can be denied.
     
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    yes, now give nurk max contract
     
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    Why not at least have the foresight to put that stipulation in instead of taking back a Bucks pick that is going to be in the 20's? Maybe free fall wasn't accurate but they were hanging on for dear life.
     
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    It’s not all I ask. If it doesn’t get better then move the fuck on. I guess I just think he can’t destroy the franchise because burning it to the ground or adding pieces that make irrelevant for years, like we were, makes no difference. New ownership will either like the moves of find their own guy
     
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    Stop being reasonable
     
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    Agreed on missing out on the pick. He played the odds, and the odds would have said we'd get that pick. He still tried to do something, which could have greatly paid off. And it failed to an extent, but we still have another future asset, which we will obviously not know the value there for a few years. But I liked that he was trying to shake some things up, something a Blazers GM has been unwilling to do since Trader Bob left.
     
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