FIRE CRONIN

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  1. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    an inefficient scorer and upcoming free agent whose defensive impact is more theoretical than anything... his value can't be as high as they desire.
     
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    Sure. Let's criticise Cronin based on an hoopshype rumour.
     
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    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    Sure that is possible this is all Detroit spin, which is why I said "if". But there is more to this than one random internet rumor.

    First off Dame and Cronin rhetoric of trying to win soon.

    Second, the posts here from posters with Blazers insider knowledge such as Mediocre Man that have implied something along theses lines might be true.

    Finally, looking at the below expected market return Cronin got at the deadline, which doesn't give me confidence he is getting the value or exceeding the value the board consensus puts on the picks.
     
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    SlyPokerCat cats rool dogs drool

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    Funny. Because just a short month ago folks in here were saying Detroit had to move Grant and had no leverage so we would get him for peanuts :biglaugh:
     
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    Wade Garrett Exactly right.

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    I bet you are already farting from a meal you haven't even ate yet.
    You seem like that kinda guy.
     
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    So? Was everyone saying that?
     
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    That's actually what's happening.
     
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    There were certainly a few arguing that they had to get rid of him.
     
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    Hold onto your shorts! Cronin is gonna pull a rabbit out of his ass this offseason. Just wait!
     
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    This should get the Detroit GM fired if anything. Not jumping at #7 for Grant would be so bad on their part.
     
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    The problem for Detroit is that Grant will be a free agent after next season. Why would a team give up many assets for a guy who could jump ship after one season? Especially after he did just that when he left Denver.
    Edit: there is no reason Detroit "has to get rid of him."
     
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    Right, but that's why teams shouldn't give up a ton for Grant either. He could leave after 1 year for nothing. Maybe Detroit decides to keep him and decide to resign him because they only get offered something like #36 and Keon Johnson. It is obvious they value him more than prople think they do.
     
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    Lakers gave up a hell of a lot for Anthony Davis on the same on year timeline. Obviously Grant is tier down from that. But teams routinely trade very useful assets all the time for starters on the last year of their contract.
     
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    He doesn't need to pull a rabbit out of his ass.

    He's justified in starting next season with the team that needed to be amputated so they wouldn't win games, plus Damian Lillard, plus Nassir Little, plus the 7th pick in the draft.
    I hope that is how it goes.
    Either that, or he does pull a rabbit out of his ass.
     
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    Grant isn't a tier down, he's in a different universe.
     
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    If the season starts with us just drafting someone at #7 and no other moves are made, i'm fine with that but we would be wasting Dame's prime again. At that point if we suck at the trade deadline explore all options.

    Some folks around here say just wait for Cronin to do his plan! Hold onto your shorts. He is gonna wow us!
     
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    2019 the Suns gave up the no 6 pick for an expiring contract of Dario Saric and No 11.

    Do the Blazers value Grant higher than the Suns valued Saric? With Dame rhetoric of team USA and Cronin's comments to win, sadly they just might.
     
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    I'd he happy with a boring off season of drafting BPA, using the MLE on an average backup free agent, using trade exception for mediocre expiring player, resign Ant/Nurk for contracts that don't grossly overpay them.

    Let the Blazers just keep their assets, picks, and future; hoping we get to new ownership ASAP.

    I don't need Cronin to "wow" me any more, he unfortunately did that at the trade deadline.
     
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    Only Dame can waste his "prime." If he really is that good next season, he'll elevate the team and they'll be very good. It's a motivated group that wants to and can win now if Dame has a career year.
     
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    Were the 2019 Suns in a similar cap and roster situation as the Blazers? Was the expected talent at #6 in 2019 similar to #7 in 2022? Hard to compare values like that.
     

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