Chet reportedly tanks workout.

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  1. Ed O

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    There's nothing wrong with cutting a workout short, etc., etc., but it would have been more professional to simply decline to work out.

    I don't care about Chet one way or the other, and I definitely don't root for the Magic, but it makes it a bit easier to root against OKC now.
     
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    The only team I root against is the Lakers, because they're clearly the favored sons of the league which may goose the ratings but delegitimizes the results of the games. Outside of the Blazers, the main thing that has me favor one team over another is almost always style of play. I like uptempo, open court, share the ball, long stout athletes throughout the lineup, guards with zero conscious about having missed their last shot, Bigs who defend, set great picks & hustle. I don't care enough about the players personally to override the reason I'm watching unless it's especially egregious behavior from a player (like criminal).

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    so you’re a Warriors fan?
     
  4. PDXFonz

    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    Make him clean the toilets in Orlando’s Disney World Epcot during the off-season for the remainder of his Rookie Contract.

    And he has to listen to small world on repeat while doing so.
     
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    Yes of course, but I'm also a fan of how the Celtics play and didn't root for one over the other in the finals (which I really enjoyed). Definitely not a fan of the Mavericks... iso ball sucks.

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  6. BonesJones

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    A crime?! Good lord.
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Yep. He pretended to not be good at basketball. Lock him up.
     
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    Not sure that there was evidence that he actually tanked it. Left early on the last day of his visit, which implies that he was there at least two days. No evidence that he went out and played poorly during a workout.
     
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    weren’t you just in another thread crying about your freedoms being taken away by the libs or whatever the fuck, and now you want a guy locked up because he cut a workout short???? Hahahaha absolute muppet.
     
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  10. riverman

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    Wtf does this kid have to do with Portland basketball?....this is an OT thread.
     
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    Not a crime because players been doing this for long time. You can question there integrity that's about it.
     
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    "sportsnaut.com"

    That report seems like horseshit clickbait on a spammy website. Not buying it. Better run my antivirus now.
     
  13. Paine Tablet

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    I described an act of fraudulence. You handwaved it away. Will you at least admit that deceiving someone out of what they are expectedly paying for is an act of fraudulence? Every criminal has a life, so you thinking "his life" is some sort of justification for fraudulent behavior because he's "incredibly skilled and talented" is precisely the definition of privilege.

    I'm reminded of the former scouting director for the Cardinals who spent time in prison for logging into the Astros scouting database with a password he'd obtained from a former Cardinal employee who had moved on to the Astros. There are laws on the tables that govern this type of "hacking", but in reality the kind of ethical problem exists there just as much it exists in Chet's situation. Proprietary information was stolen in the Cardinals' case. Well, in the case Chet's reported deception, we are also dealing with proprietary information. The whole purpose of the workout was to gain this "proprietary information" which is scouting reports, basically. If Chet in good faith told Orlando of negative interest, then perhaps Orlando uses that time to bring in another prospect to gather intel/create "proprietary information". What Chet may've done is not only cost them financial loss on account of the visit, but also deprive them of potential proprietary assets. This is what it boils down to. You don't care about this kind of unethical behavior, but someone spent time in prison for stealing the type of information that Chet essentially sabotaged. I don't really see a difference ethically speaking. You seem to think it's ludicrous that it could be called criminal, but many people are in prison for fraudulent acts. I'm not even saying he should be treated as a criminal, I'm drawing the distinction that such behavior could be considered ethically criminal and that it's simply not justifiable. You seem to think it's ethical and want to encourage it.
     
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    Holy Shit!!! This is what you come up with. You said it, "there are laws on the table" for your bullshit comparison. There is no fucking law that says you have to bust your ass in a workout for a team you don't want to play for. It's not fraud. If you think it's immoral that's fine I don't want to debate your morals. I don't think it's in the slightest bit unethical. Prospects don't have the obligation to workout for any team so when a presumptive top 5 pick extends that courtesy they're still under no obligation to prove anything. If Chet handed them falsified medical reports that would be something different because I'm pretty sure there are laws against that but if he didn't hustle or give his full attention to a workout because he wasn't motivated to play for that team, that's his fucking preroggative.

    As for your inference that an accurate accounting of who and what Chet is would be information that legally belongs to the Orlando Magic whom Chet has no business relationship with at all, just please give me a break. They have no claim as a proprietor over anything that is Chet Holmgren... none. You're grasping at straws and you're just further ruining your credibility. So do yourself a favor and stop while you're only this far behind.
     
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    lol this fucking thread
     
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    I mean, he's not our headache. Why should I care?
     
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  17. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Look. Was what Chet did an asshole move? Sure. Was it criminal? No. There is no law against what he did. Again, the Magic had the number one pick. They could have picked him regardless. They chose not too. He didn't take anything from them. If anything he showed his character right. Made their choice easier.

    The Magic got the better guy anyway in Banchero. I don't think they are upset one bit. You seem pretty angry about this? Are you a Magic fan who wanted them to draft Chet or something?

    Your example of the Cardinals employee is far different than what Chet did. The Cardinal employee actually broke a law. Chet maybe broke a code of integrity.

    Also, thanks for editing out the political insult. In the future, keep the politics to the OT please and careful with insults.
     

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