Ant 4/100

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  1. julius

    julius Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    So for 2 months he was a terrible defender and "sucked" and then 2 months he wasn't a terrible defender, and didn't "suck".
     
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    I'll take the Winslow and Hart I saw with Nurk and Ant over the Norm and CJ I saw with Nurk.....guys come to Portland and often have career years...Norm didn't....CJ was drafted so I'm optimistic we've improved....I was excited about Norm and Roco but they did not show me what I thought they would for their time here...Roco even got benched. Hart came in and scored 44 as a Blazer....a career high
     
  3. CJ_is_Gone

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    No.
    He's been a terrible defender his entire career.
     
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    for some stupid reason (my wheelhouse), your post reminded me of that old joke: "the first time Microsoft makes a product that doesn't suck is when they build a vacuum cleaner"
     
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    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    You know what this is a correlary to?

    The los Angeles clippers trade.

    Just did it without seeing the market.
     
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  6. julius

    julius Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I was responding to something in context to the post.

    Jeesh, this place...
     
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  7. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Brunson deal comes with a PO for the 4th year.
     
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    Ant is a top 25% player according to EPM so 90th or so which is about $13m. I don’t know if you can do that but I just did. He’s young so that should be worth something. Feel like the Blazers continue to undervalue defense though.
     
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  9. Ed O

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    I didn't see this posted anywhere, but Hollinger's BORD$ rankings from earlier today:

    1. James Harden, SG, Philadelphia: $46,617,283 (previously: 2)
    2. Bradley Beal, SG, Washington: $38,520,130 (3)
    3. Zach LaVine, SG, Chicago: $31,716,188 (4)
    4. Deandre Ayton, C, Phoenix (restricted): $31,406,061 (5)
    5. Miles Bridges, PF, Charlotte (restricted): $30,940,550 (6)
    6. Jalen Brunson, PG, Dallas: $29,371,294 (7)
    7. Chris Boucher, C, Toronto: $19,782,672 (8)
    8. Bruce Brown, SF, Brooklyn, $19,043,654 (9)
    9. Kyle Anderson, PF, Memphis, $18,990,342 (10)
    10. Mitchell Robinson, C, New York: $18,862,212 (11)
    11. Jusuf Nurkić, C, Portland: $17,414,518 (12)
    12. Otto Porter Jr., SF, Golden State: $16,603,510 (13)
    13. Malik Monk, SG, Lakers: $16,511,722 (14)
    14. Bobby Portis, C, Milwaukee: $15,793,989 (15)
    15. Donte DiVincenzo, SG, Sacramento: $15,551,549 (16)
    16. Montrezl Harrell, C, Charlotte: $14,730,416 (17)
    17. Delon Wright, PG/SG, Atlanta: $14,546,800 (18)
    18. Tyus Jones, PG, Memphis: $13,791,316 (19)
    19. Nicolas Batum, SF, Clippers: $13,734,340 (20)
    20. Jae’Sean Tate, PF, Houston (restricted): $13,343,341 (NR)
    21. Kevon Looney, C, Golden State: $12,533,705 (21)
    22. Cody Martin, SG, Charlotte, (restricted): $12,366,850 (22)
    23. Anfernee Simons, PG, Portland (restricted): $11,467,484 (23)
    24. Collin Sexton, SG, Cleveland (restricted): $10,816,788 (25)
    25. Isaiah Hartenstein, LA Clippers: $10,549,849 (NR)
    And in a comment, he said:
    From everything I'm hearing, Nurkic and Robinson are getting paid in line with their BORD$ values. Boucher, probably not so much. Harrell, not even close.
    So... Portland basically paid about twice as much (probably a bit less, as presumably his value will go up over time) as that model indicated he was worth. fwiw
     
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    #class
     
  11. Ed O

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    As a follow-up to my last post, from June 13:

    6. Anfernee Simons, PG, Portland (restricted): $11,467,484

    This might be a bit lower than some expect for Anfernee Simons after his offensive exploits when Damian Lillard was out of the lineup. In 30 games as a starter, Simons averaged 22.0 points per game on 60.0 percent true shooting; given that he will only be 23 this summer, it seems like this elevator is still going up, too.

    BORD$ balances that production against the fact that Simons is still pretty limited as a distributor, and more importantly, that he has rated his entire career as a destructively bad defensive player. Perhaps that latter issue improves; Simons is young, and at 6-foot-3 with decent athleticism, one would think he can level up to something approaching average.

    It seems a foregone conclusion that Portland will re-sign him and the only question is the price, which I’m guessing will come in quite a bit higher than the BORD$ value reflected here.​
     
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    My guess is the Brunson talks caused Ant's agent to ask for more haha
     
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    All I know is Ant's gonna live up to it
     
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    I figured 20 so oh well. Hope he plays well and can continue to improve.
     
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  15. theprunetang

    theprunetang Shaedon "Deadly Nightshade" Sharpe is HIM

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    Decent athleticism?
     
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    Hopefully the guaranteed money is closer to 80 and the last 20 is incentives
     
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    As athletic as he is, he is probably the 4th most athletic on his own team. Sharpe/Keon/Brown/Ant/....and Nas is no slouch.
    If only we had someone who could throw a decent lob on this team. Can we bring Andre' Miller out of retirement? He never had any athleticism to begin with, so he wouldn't have slowed down much.
     
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    This is where we could really use Nic Batum...he's a pretty good lob passer...
     
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    Dear God i can't believe we just paid him 25mil per year.
     
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  20. Stevenson

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    Fair indeed.
     
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