Zombie This is an epic disaster.

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  1. Tince

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    "players can't officially sign deals until 12:01 p.m. ET on July 6," -The NBA

    This is an epic disaster." -Predator on July 2nd
     
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    With rising star Anthony Edwards?

    They will be better than us next year.
     
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    Who are the top shelves that were good and were fired? Roco was not good and nance was sick all the time...
     
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    I think the Cornin supporters (if there is such a thing) mostly said Cronin was attempting to get out of Powell & RoCo's contracts. I'm guessing the "blow it up" people were excited about this.

    I'm not overly excited about where things stand on July 2nd. I also wasn't excited by the lack of changes a year ago, knowing the roster was the problem, yet Olshey only made a coaching change.

    One year has passed. We changed coaches, we've now changed GMs, the roster has changed, but the roster is still the problem.
     
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    Minny made a real stupid trade

    Houston traded RoCo for two first round picks. Does that mean that any average role player is worth two first round picks? Or does it mean that Portland made a stupid trade and the price they paid in the stupid trade should not be used as a template for an expected return of any other comparable star?

    as you guys are so willing to say....over and over and over....Dame is 32 years old; he's a short guard who plays bad defense. He's also coming off his worst season as a pro and hasn't played since he had surgery to correct a chronic injury; and he's on a super-max deal eligible for an extension. No team is going to trade 5 first round picks for him. Maybe no team would even trade 3 first round picks for him. Do I hear a bid of 2 firsts?
     
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    Yeah, they could let Lillard continue to make public demands and threats until moves are made for a mediocre two-year attempt at the playoffs.

    We could hope that Lillard was inspired by the play he watched from the bench, with ball movement and happy players getting after it. Maybe he will adjust his game.

    Or we could trade Lillard for a couple nice young pieces now, and get this party started!
     
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    How do you know that? People were down on Gobert and he just went for 5 firsts. And he is a big. That is 30.
     
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    Teams have other teams picks. You could trade him to X team for their pick and the picks they own from some shit team It’s not hard to involve other teams. You could end up with a stud 21/22 year old and some first round picks. You have Sharpe and Ant.
     
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    the same way you know otherwise
     
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    Nonsense
     
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    exactly
     
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    Which teams do you think would throw a big offer to us for Dame right now? Realistically.
     
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    Know otherwise of what? That Gobert just went for 5 firsts?

    I've said countless times, figure out what his value is if you're the Blazers. If its 1 1st round pick you don't trade him. If its Scottie Barnes and Van Vleet, and you can flip Van Vleet for some picks... Well. I'll root for you in Toronto, Dame.
     
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    Sure, not because you didn't add any hyperbole to that statement or anything. Nah. You wouldn't do that, would you?
     
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    Go team by team. Obviously has to be a team that is in title contention, or wants to be, right? Start with the west...Suns? no. Memphis? no. GS? no. Dallas? Sure. Nothing to offer. Utah? Not anymore. Denver? No good picks to offer. Minnesota? Nope. Clippers? Nothing to offer. Pelicans? Nope. Spurs? Rebuilding. Lakers? Nothing to offer. Kings? Wanna hitch your wagon to Fox making close to 30 a year? I don't. OKC and Houston, no.
    East: Miami is a possibility. Boston, unlikely. Milwaukee, unlikely. Philly, hard capped, and unlikely. Toronto maybe. Chicago, maybe. Brooklyn, nope. Cleveland seems unlikely. Atlanta no. Charlotte no. Knicks, likely a no now. Washington maybe. Indy, Det., Orl., all seem like a no. So what do we have? like 4 teams able to make an offer? Or likely to? Which of them have a bunch of picks from other teams?
     
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    I actually think as long as Dame plays well as most expect, but the teams sucks, his value will be much higher come trade deadline. The injury will be of the past and teams will be more desperate to get what they believe is the piece to a ring.
    No reason to trade him now.
     
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    I’ve never looked into it because I know it won’t happen. But how about the Knicks. They’d love Lillard. Involve another team. The Sixers. The Heat. Young guys like Maxey, Herro, Quickly, Barrett, all moveable
     
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    Minnesota has KAT (age: 26) and Edwards (age: 20) and Gobert (age: 30). I'd swap rosters with them in a split second.

    They may or may not be better than we are next year, but I expect they'll definitely be better over the next five years or so.
     
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    Are you saying we are gonna renege on the deals we agreed to?
     
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    Russell is 26 and would be our 2nd best player.

    Gobert, Kat or Russell would be our 2nd best player.

    Edwards could be better than Dame next year. He is a true star on the uprise. If not next year, in another year or two.
     
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