Trade Grant to Portland for Mil first done deal

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by South East, Jun 22, 2022.

  1. MickZagger

    MickZagger Well-Known Member

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    The teams that passed on him. Some people feed off the feeling of being slighted. I know I have at certain points in my life.
     
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    That would be insane if Joe could pull that off. Fun to think about even if highly unlikely.
     
  3. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Already not possible because Detroit just took Burks and Noel for a few seconds.
     
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    Is there any official news of Grant to Portland?
     
  5. Chris Craig

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    We'd get the pick back we traded to get Grant? Lol. So basically, Bledsoe, the 2022 2nd swap and two future 2nds for Grant and Noel? That would be awesome.
     
  6. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Couldn't it be amended?
     
  7. CJ_is_Gone

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    It could be amended... but I don't think Portland could take back Noel under the Hard Cap now.
     
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  8. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Deal still not official. Probably won't be until the 6th after the moratorium.

    I don't think Duren is even allowed to practice in Detroit without signing his contract, which he can't do until the deal is official.

    According to Grant's IG, he's stateside, so that's definitely not the holdup.
     
  9. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Still makes me wonder if we’re gonna use Bledsoe instead of the TPE.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Only real benefit there is removing Bled's 3.9 mil from our books, but we can't use our 21 mil TPE for anything else, so not really that significant.
     
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    Getting off of that 3.9 is probably super significant to Cronin if they make no more moves this offseason, as that drops the team below the luxury tax and pushes the repeater tax countdown off another year. If you know you're still a year or 2 away, that is very helpful
     
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  12. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    ask Dame how he feels about that...

    we have like the 14th highest payroll in the league right now. good luck in convincing him (or me) that this franchise cares about winning if saving $ is our goal. who cares if we are a repeater next year? we should be. winning teams don't care about that.
     
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    To be clear - if Portland ONLY used Bledsoe to facilitate the Grant trade, then his contract would have to be guaranteed for $15M.

    If Portland uses the TPE & sends Bledsoe back, then the guarantee can say at $4M
     
  14. Fitz303

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    I don't think he'd ask Dame what he thinks about 3.9 Mil. The choices right now are basically to add someone for roughly 5 million or push off the repeater tax countdown this year. I'd bet the plan is to duck under this year. I'd also bet once they signed GPII they moved on from guys like Thybulle. I could be wrong but I don't see the point in making anymore incremental moves this year, keeping them in the luxury tax, when they're not quite ready to really compete. They're better, and likely in the playoffs this year, but it's gonna be another year before it's time to go all in. Also why I don't think he cared much about the hard cap cause this isn't the year they push their chips in
     
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    Then forget Dame. Your talk about hesitancy to enter the tax is nails on the chalkboard for ME.

    WTF do i care about saving Jody money?
     
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    I'll be honest, not sure why this was your response to my post.
     
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    after re reading your post I have to agree...I think I was misreading your....first few words there ...I don't care about Jody's money either, nor does Dame I'd guess. My post lacked context in reply to yours...my bad
     
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    Having ANY extra breathing room with the hard cap could be significant for moves. That 3.9 could make a big difference.
     
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    Who cares what you think.

    End of the day, sport franchises are buisness. They have to make decisions based on their economic realities (which you're not privy too).
     
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  20. illmatic99

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    clearly they don't care about me. but if ducking the tax is a goal for this "business," then I don't feel the need to support them financially any longer. Especially if we are so far below other teams in overall payroll. Clearly it would indicate that competing is not the priority.
     
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