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  1. SlyPokerDog

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    I would prefer the Ducks stay in a reorganized Pac 12. Screw the Big 10.
     
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    that's a chunk of my reaction to all this crap. Another chunk is the realization that the Big-10 schools will be collecting 50-80M/year more than the Ducks and that may be too steep a hill to overcome
     
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    Not only that, but the fact that recruiting the 4 & 5 star athletes will be much more difficult when it becomes apparent that the power conferences rule the national championship games.
     
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    14 national titles in 10 years and doesn't get his contract renewed. Wonder if there was something behind the scene we haven't heard about yet. Most schools would pay a lot of money for a coach with that sort of success.
     
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    and the fact that since the NCAA doesn't actually run anything post-season-wise, it wouldn't be difficult for the SEC and Big-10 to expand to the point where they have enough of the biggest programs to basically create their own national championship playoff, in which Oregon would be unable to participate if they didn't join up with the rest of the big boys.
     
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    be a pretty difficult case to make that Rutgers, Northwestern, and Vanderbilt were eligible for a national championship but Oregon, Washington, and Stanford were not. And for that matter, with how firmly the ACC has their members locked up till 2036, teams like Clemson and North Carolina wouldn't be eligible either
     
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    You don't think Clemson and UNC would be able to get out if they really wanted to--that is, if the SEC really wanted them to? No idea what the early exit penalties are, but I imagine there's a number that the SEC could meet if they wanted to.
     
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    the early exit penalties for any ACC team, other than Notre Dame (which has independent status in football), are estimated to be in the 400-600M range. That includes the provision in the GOR each school signed that calls for a forfeiture of TV revenue till 2036.

    The GOR (grant of rights) each school signed is by far the most punitive any school has signed with any conference. Not even close

    I've read that the only way any school could get out of the deal (without going bankrupt) is for the ACC to fold. IIRC, that would take a vote of 2/3 of the schools (might have that wrong...majority?) and since most of the schools would not be going to the SEC or Big-10, that seems unlikely

    never say never of course, and with Fox, ESPN, NBC etc. involved, a lot of squeaky wheels could get a lot of green grease
     
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    Wow, that's massive. I had no idea. Thanks.
     
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    it is massive which is why some think the ACC schools, or at least some of them, might challenge it in court

    IIRC, Notre Dame has no penalty in football. But they do in all other sports and the estimate is they would have to pay a 120M penalty, from the other sports, to leave

    understand, I am only relaying what I've read in the last 10 days or so. And it has been a tsunami of tweets and conjecture and flat-out bullshit since the announcement about USC/UCLA came out. So maybe, the numbers I've seen are way too high.

    I do know the GOR the ACC schools signed is extreme
     
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    Pretty simple fix…
    Two different National championships.
    ACC/Big12/Pac12/Go5
    SEC/B1G “leave” the NCAA
     
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    Yay, we're the division 1B, better than FCS but not a good as the SEC/B1G champs!
     
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    Better fix for me would be universities cut ties with those programs and they form a semi-pro league, and make college football an amateur sport. Never happen of course.
     
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    I don’t know if this is workable, but I would love to see college football get rid of cupcake scheduling to pad records. What if it was required that teams that want to be in contention for the title playoffs have to declare that before the start of the season. Contenders would have to leave three non-conference games open and those games would be assigned randomly from other contenders outside of the conference. If a team knows it’s not going to contend, schedule all the patsy opponents you want, but your padded record won’t buy consideration for the playoffs.
     
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    I'm guessing there will be another reshuffling of the deck before we get to 2o24. If they're going to toss traditions out the window with D1 football, then they might as well do it in a way that makes the most sense.

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    this is just one of the people I've read talking about the ACC and the GOR contracts:



    he made a series of posts in that thread....very interesting
     
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    RIP Spencer Webb. Very sad to hear that.
     
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