Kakko signed

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  1. Stepupstepan

    Stepupstepan Well-Known Member

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    I don’t think that’s what they’re saying here. They’re saying that Laf and Kakko development has been slowed down and incompetent. Drury has been told to go all in in this two/three year window. Playing time for the kids will suffer because of that. There is no sugarcoating around that. The Avs were absolute garbage for years when Maccinan started so they had to play him a ton. If the Avs were any good then he wouldn’t be getting that much ice time in his first two years
     
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    Stepupstepan Well-Known Member

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    Iam sure Laf and Kakko will get much more ice time on pp this year.if not then it would be a complete joke
     
  3. kreidertime

    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    Grevy, sometimes you’re dumb as dog shit. Some of you didn’t learn a fucking thing from last year. Sadly, the shitty devils are gonna be kicking our ass soon if they ever get a goalie because they actually develop their young forwards. What I saw in the playoffs was a team with older vets whose vets couldn’t score at even strength for shit in most of the playoff games. By the way the kid line at even strength most of the games was our best line.
     
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  4. kreidertime

    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    I had to put Grevy on ignore 31. I can’t take another year of our fucking stupid fans thinking playing a bunch of vets a ton who suck at even strength offensively in the playoffs is going to lead us to the Stanley Cup
     
  5. PorterPanzer

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    Where are all those stupid fans from last year that said no way the Rangers make the playoffs?
     
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    Funny...the rangers do not get any credit for developing Kreider into a 50 plus goal scoring season..oh wait..that's because he wasn't a first overall pick..that's because he got all the ice time in the world..silly me
     
  7. kreidertime

    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    Probably watching our stupid fans that can't get it thru their thick, fucking heads that we didn't win or accomplish shit last year. 82 years, 1 cup but yeah, keep thinking the organization knows what it is doing. A lot of our fan base are acting like loser fans routing for a team like the Blue Jackets where making the playoffs and winning a series is a successful year. When the year was over I was thinking it was a good year but came back to one cup in 82 years and it's NY. Ultimately, they failed miserably again.
     
  8. PorterPanzer

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    How do you know so much about the feelings of fans, who they root for and why? As a longtime fan I'm excited that the Rangers have finally changed course and added grit which many of the know nothing fans here disagreed with but one year in with this philosophy had the Rangers 2 games from the Cup which I see as progress. Now the goal is getting to the Cup finals, the mostly intact squad has a much better idea of what's involved in postseason play.
     
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    Greyvtrayn Well-Known Member

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    Oh no...Ive been put on ignore again.
    What drumpy doesn't get is that the Rangers wouldn't have progressed as a team they way they did if they let Kant Hit an Open Net Kakko play 17+ minutes and get PP1 time. Hopefully HE pulls is head out of his ass and progresses this year.
    What drumpy forgets is that I actually agreed with him that for the Rangers to have long term success they need players like Chytil, Lafreniere and Kakko to develop. They need those players to produce when they are still on relatively affordable contracts. Aging vets with monster deals taking up a huge chunk of the cap and the young players (who actually earn a big raise) coming up on RFA status leaves the Rangers with very little time and space to actually compete for a cup.
    You can't have it both ways though. You either make it to the ECF on the backs of your vets or you go through another year of developing your prospects. Personally, I like watching playoff hockey way more than regular season hockey and certainly way more than reading about a bunch of 'prospects' playing in the OHL that we will probably never see in any meaningful role at the NHL level.
    Its pretty clear Drury and Gallant were in win-now mode which doesn't seem to align with drumpy's preferred way of running the team. Instead of getting mad at the fans who explain what the Rangers did he should get mad at the people actually making those decisions. Or not, I couldn't fucking care less about him and if he disappeared from the planet today it would make no difference in my life.
     
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    NYR31 Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    are you really bragging about a 31yo who was drafted almost 15 years ago? Lol

    It actually goes to show how incompetent we are at developing forwards in this organization.
     
  11. PorterPanzer

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    Development is up to the individual, last year the Rangers coaching/management provided all top prospects with the opportunity to succeed, most have spent little or no time in the AHL. The Tkachuk brothers have a father with a successful NHL career who was able to mentally prepare them for NHL level hockey, that's why they are strong players not flukes. Our prospects were dominant young players in their own right who are now facing a competitive challenge for perhaps the first time in their lives, something that definitely shakes your confidence. Laf overcame it postseason rolling around on the ice mixing things up physically, Kakko not so much.
     
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    I'm just starting to add them to ignore 31. I can't take another year with dumbasses in our fan base who can't grasp the concept that when you take players really high in the draft unless they are just lazy and don't care, you have to make developing them your first priority.
     
  13. Greyvtrayn

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    Congrats on being drumpy's best friend, 31!
    Why anyone would remain a fan of an organization that operates in a way that is counter to their desires and then takes his frustrations out on the other fans of the same organization? Puzzling.
     
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    What's funny is it's Drury and GG's first year, they have one of the best first seasons in franchise history after finally adding grit to protect marquis players and now the same guys who said they would not even sniff a playoff spot last year have changed the argument to who cares about the postseason, these poor kids are being mishandled - Brilliant!! Forget that CK, Panarin (who's not going anywhere) and Trouba had their best seasons due to those precious extra minutes stolen from the aforementioned downtrodden lads bursting with the ability to score but hampered by the incompetent old school behind the times coach. This has the makings of a Hallmark Channel miniseries or a updated remake of the Rob Lowe classic "Youngblood".
     
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    I don't hide the fact that I was one of those 'Rangers won't make the playoffs' types last year because I fully expected them to stick with Laf and Kakko on the top two lines sink or swim. But Gallant and seemingly Drury went the other way and decided they were in win-now mode. With slower development from those two maybe it will allow the Rangers to keep both of them on more reasonable bridge deals while those big priced vets are still performing at near peak levels for another couple seasons giving the Rangers a little more time to contend for a Cup without losing their high-draft capital players to teams that have more cap space.
     
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    Hurts my feelings to be on an ignore list...oh wait.. i dont give a shit..someone has a different opinion and it's cry baby season.
    Hey great for Austin Mathews, a centerman, and the Toronto Maple Leafs organization for the wonderful season of developing a terrific centerman. I'm sure all Maple Leaf fans are going that's terrific developing an outstanding player to reach his full potential. It was great seeing him lift the...wait..nevermind..maybe next season
    Him and Mitch Marner have turned a couple of top end picks into domination...yet the team still hasn't won anything..so congrats on developing two high end draft picks.
     
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    Let's see Kakko play a full season.
     
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    Unlike some...inhave patience not to throw 21 year Olds into the deep end of the pool and expect them not only to swim but become instant leaders. Make them earn the minutes and learn it's not just about scoring goals on the power play its about being a complete player. It's also showing the other players that jobs aren't just given to people.
    Anyone think that maybe Kreider had his best season this year because the rangers had drafted Kakko and Lafreniere? Maybe it drove him to push himself knowing his replacement was drafted?
     
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    NYR31 Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    But when Miller first came on the team he was instantly given 20+ minutes a game. Or Fox whose first year got almost 19 minutes a game and plenty of PP time and starting with his second year he's played close to 24 minutes a game on average. Don't remember you saying we were taking it too fast with them and they needed to be protected and earn their time.
     
  20. Greyvtrayn

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    Aren't Miller and Fox defensemen? Don't defensemen, by nature of there only being 3 pairs to rotate, generally play more minutes per game than forwards?
    Couldn't you also argue that based off their performance on the ice, those two earned and deserved the ice-time?
     

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