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Discussion in 'New York Rangers' started by mrmel29, Jun 12, 2022.

  1. kreidertime

    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    Sens are retarded. Giving Stutzle 8y, 8.35 m. There is locking a player up early when you believe which I wish the Rangers would do but then that contract is just freaking stupid
     
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    Yeah, sad part is that deal will impact Lafreniere's deal. His reps will certainly try and use that as a comp.

    This is why I get frustrated though, for the past few years I have been writing the Rangers cannot pay or play all these kids. They need to go for the cup now by SMARTLY dealing excess kids for better players now, but we do not do it. We waste potential and talent, and then their value drops and we are left holding the bag.

    I say again - THIS SEASON the Rangers need to be in it to win it. After this season you have to extend Miller and Lafreniere for big money. They are cornerstone players you cannot let go. Add in Fox, and Zib, and other big deals, and tough decisions are coming for Drury. Kakko may have to go. Chytil may have to go. We cannot afford all these guys. Deal them for a stud for a year and go all in. Then backfill with other kids.

    I really think we are doing a very poor job of maximizing our assets, and managing the cap around that. It is a major issue here.
     
  3. PorterPanzer

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    I'm intrigued by Adam Edstrom and whether he can play at a higher level. I don't think other GMs are knocking down the door looking for undersized dmen. Eventually Drury may have to resort to moving them for picks but there's no hurry. If these guys are stupid enough to mope and go through the motions in the AHL it's highly unlikely a GM from another team is going to jump at a trade opportunity. Their best bet is to dominate the AHL, that gets a GM's attention.
     
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    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    These are just not undersized defenseman they are very talented undersized defenseman that have the ability to quarterback a power-play. If you look around the league there a lot of teams out there who don’t have a power-play quarterback. They use some schmuck who puts up like 35 points a year. I agree with 71 the Rangers have been very poor managing their assets and with their contracts.
     
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    Apparently they were offered a high 2nd at the draft for Lundkvist, which may be about what they end up getting.
     
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    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    That’s not enough. I would rather have a young center prospect with excellent upside who is close to making the NHL. Or a high second round pick and an elite NHL ready role-playing prospect.
     
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    The problem is that other teams have worse prospects and get offered more because teams hate New York
     
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    The Kings have alot of surplus C prospects so maybe that could be a possibility.
     
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    That's one thing I agree with on sports talk radio here. NY always has to overpay which shows you other GM's are stupid. Hajek should have been stolen from this organization like Graves was. Hajek other than Miller is easily the best skater on our defense. He'll flourish in the right spot on another team. Jones and Lundkvist will QB a PP on another team. I still like Liam Foudy a lot. He is blazing fast at 6'2. He's been handled poorly by the Jackets. If I could get a second and Foudy for either Jones or Lundkvist I would do it. He would be excellent here.
     
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    The problem with undersized dmen is their ineffectiveness postseason, very few can withstand the physicality. .I saw the same trade rumor 71 and that is why I disagree that Drury is mismanaging personnel, he could easily give away guys for picks but hasn't done anything rash.
     
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    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    They use smarts to avoid physicality like Fox. You just can't have 3 of them on your defense. Two is pushing it but one is a good thing if the offense is there. The PP is huge in the post season.
     
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    Unfortunately for Nils the Rangers hit on most of their defensive picks so there's one spot open for him to try and win. All the buzz seems to indicate a trade but I agree he's worth more.
     
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    Motte to OTT.
     
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    1 yr 1.35m$. Surprised the Rangers didn't offer at least that.
     
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    So we couldn't sign Motte for about 600,000 dollars more for one year instead of Carpenter. Fn stupid. Only reason I can come up with why they did that is because Carpenter stinks enough they can throw him in the minors if they don't have room for him where Motte you can't do that. Plus, I would think if Kravtsov blows or they want an upgrade from Carpenter, they probably will use Jones or Lundkvist to do that at the deadline or sometime during the season. I'd prefer they move Lundkvist for a 3rd line forward now and put Goodrow on the 4th line and sit Carpenter. I would like to see Goodrow play a lot less minutes this year. He played way too much and was way too banged up and tired by the third round of the playoffs.

    Panerin-Trocheck-Kakko
    Lafreniere-Zibanejad-Kreider
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    They probably figure Hunt can spell some people on the 4th line at times too so that's enough for now.
     
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    We all know Hunt will be on Panarin's opposite wing by the end of October....we just know it.
     
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    Hopefully a certain #88 by the spring.
     
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    Kane isn't going to resign in Chicago. His value is a ton less. He also is on record stating he loved playing with Panarin. That being said, I'm not giving a first rounder for him or any top young player. Chicago can go fuck themselves. Also, there is no way they an afford to sign Kane. They are in cap hell as it is. Lafreniere, Miller and Chytil are all RFA's next season. Drury is on fucking crack for not extending Lafrenire and Miller already. I don't know who is running our cap but it looks more and more like they don't know what they are doing. I'm starting to think they won't put Lafreniere on the first PP unit this year and will use Trochek because they don't want Lafreniere to bust out because if he does, they won't be able to afford him without making a desperate move to clear cap space. I think they want him to not produce big one more season like Kakko so they can low ball him with a bridge deal. Smh. One cup in 80+ years.
     
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    Kane would just be a rental for sure. He would probably sign with his hometown Sabres after next season, if they show some semblance of progress.
     

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