Forum Game Call it now - Sharpe's future is....

Did Chauncey limit his comparison to just jumping ability? Vince always had solid form on his jumper. While at UNC (where he shot 37% on 3's) I remember noting that and his smooth footwork pulling up going both left and right which convinced me his game would translate beyond just jumping. He and SS have comparable size, athleticism and jump shots. Vince was 22 his rookie year though... few comparisons are carbon copies but this one holds more water then most.

Carter and Roy are pretty high praise.

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Sharpe has simply put UNLIMITED potential. Steal of the draft and I am pretty confident he will go down as the best in his class.

 

I get it, but to me it's a lazy comparison.

 

Drug test incoming

 

I’m thinking a not as tall/lanky T-Mac.

 

I want to point out the hyperbole but I completely agree

I’m pretty confident he’ll go down as the best SG prospect in the last 5+ years. That means better than Green, Edwards, Barrett, etc.

 

Yep. He's may very well be the best SG in the league in about 3 years IMO if he is in that position, but I actually think he might be a short SF because otherwise that implies we are trading Ant or Dame which I don't like. Consider Booker etc. will have slowed down most likely and he's a Two-Way player.

 

Booker turned 26 just 3 days ago; Jaylen Brown turned 26 just 9 days ago; Anthony Edwards is 21; Bennedict Mathurin is 20; Donovan Mitchell turned 26 just 2 months ago; Zach LaVine is 27; Tyler Herro is 22; SGA is 24. Tyrese Maxey is 22; Keldon Johnson turned 23 just 3 weeks ago; Bradley Beal is 29.

I like Sharpe and I'm excited about his upside. But some of you guys might want to slow the roll of the hype train just a little. He might pass guys like Derozan as he ages out, but there are 10-12 SG's that are better now and still in their twenties, so projecting Sharpe as better when almost all of those guys will STILL be in their twenties seems like massive projection thru a Blazer prism

as for trading Simons, I'd do it if the return was somebody like Brandon Ingram or Siakam or maybe even a PJ Washington level player bringing a better fit. But I just don't think Simons has that kind of value, nor will he be gaining it

 

How in the literal fuck do you go from Ingram/Siakam to P.J. WASHINGTON....if you think Ant and PJ are even close to similar value you aren't watching games...

 

How do you go to freaking PJ Washington? Lol

 

you'll notice...well I guess you didn't going by your bombastic response....what I said was "maybe even a PJ Washington level player bringing a better fit"

I know a lot of people don't do context on the internet, but they should

 

Advanced stats can be nice...but Ant has an elite offensive package and has not played nearly as many starting level minutes as PJ Washington who is a good stretch big but no where near elite. I know some still aren't completely sold on Ant, but to compare him even to a "PJ Washington-level" player is ridiculous IMO. **EDIT**: Especially when these are the first true minutes we have of Ant playing next to Dame. These are the floor for him, as he learns to continue to play with and off of Dame. His offensive package is a far better fit next to Dame than CJ's ever was and it will be even more evident as the season progresses and they continue to gel.

Shaedon is 19 and already 6'5. I think any concerns with his ability to play the 3 within a couple years has already faded a bit with the level of instinct he has shown on the defensive end and his length/athleticism. I think within 1-2 years Dame/Ant/Shaedon could potentially be our 1/2/3, and with Ant/Shaedon playing well together that could help take a larger load off of Dame as he ages.

 

I absolutely categorically refuse to slow my roll in a thread titled "Sharpe's future Call it now". I often appreciate your nitpicking corrections of mine and other's posts, but it's ridiculous to tell someone to slow their roll in a post about Sharpe's long term future. Just period.

 

"elite offensive package"??

what exactly is Ant elite at? I know he was great last year in catch-and-shoot, but he's only around 80th in the NBA this season (not elite)

* He's in the 63rd percentile this season in isolation (not elite); last season he was in 28th percentile (not elite)
* he's in the 47th percentile as a PnR ball-handler (not elite); last season, he was 88th percentile (close to elite)
* he's in the 68th percentile on spot-up (not elite); he was 95% percentile last season (definitely elite)
* he's in the 7th percentile in transition; he was 30th percentile last season (Yikes!)

it looks like where he may be elite is when the team creates his offense, not him creating it for himself. Like a Klay Thompson without the length or defense. If he can get back to where he was on the assisted plays and also maintain his PnR efficiency, then he might be elite. That's not certain though because posting great numbers on a crappy team is not the same as posting great numbers on a good team

I didn't really compare him to Washington. In a thread talking about Shape's upside, which I'd peg as being highest as a SG, I spitballed a possible trade for a player who might be a much better fit. I didn't target Washington, I just used him as an example. If you don't like the PJ exchange, consider a possible trade for a player like OG Anunoby or Bobby Portis or Cameron Johnson. This is all assuming that Sharpe becomes a great SG

I have been one of the people pushing back on the narrative that Dame/Ant would be the Dame/CJ. It was one of the reasons I was happy with last season's trade deadline moves, especially moving CJ. I've been advocating for giving Dame/Ant at least a year to develop a synergy. Dame/CJ got 7 years for chrissakes

I was NOT proposing a specific trade. I was just suggesting a possible reason for considering a Simons trade

 

overreact much Francis?

you were very definitely rolling suggesting Sharpe may 'very well be the best SG in the NBA in 3 years'. I mean, we are 7 games into his career.

is that what this thread is?...a no-fly zone for any measured or reasonable assessment of Sharpe's possible NBA future? How many players in history were the best at their position by the time they were 22?

 

You're excited about Sharpe's upside of possibly passing Derozan as he ages out? What is exciting about that?

 

the comment was in response to Sharpe possibly being the best SG in the NBA in 3 years. I listed around a dozen twenty-something SG's, most of whom will gett better too. Derozan was just an example. he's averaging 25-4-4 so far. In 3 years, yeah, he'll be 36 so you'd anticipate he'll be losing a step as he ages. But his game is smooth and has a lot of guile, so he might not fade rapidly

I'm excited for the style and control Sharpe plays with at 19 years and no college experience. I'm hoping he'll be a top-10 SG, or even top-5. I'm just not counting on it yet

 

I’m gonna give you a scenario and see how hard of a time you have answering this:

Remember how we traded Plumlee for Nurk AND we got a 1st? Let’s say Let’s say Ant makes the ASG this year, and by trade deadline of the 2024-25 season (Sharpe’s year 3) a team offers a guy or two that would really help this team + 3 1sts. Do you love Ant enough to just hang up that call?

All this is hearsay until Sharpe reaches that level, but to me, Sharpe’s development is much more exciting because it just gives me more confidence we’ll be just fine without Ant IF we needed to trade him. And if the right trade came along down the line and we don’t get to championship level contention yet, Ant could fetch us a haul.

 

Over parent much Dad? Can't stop won't stop the Sharpe train especially in a wildly speculative thread such as this!