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  1. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    We could do this all night. Tougher in Vancouver, oh well....more people can see it NOW that it's on ROOT, than before. Its a fact. Can't argue it.

    MORE VIEWERS IS GOOD REGARDLESS OF HOW THEY CAN WATCH. MORE VIEWERSHIP MEANS YOU CAN CHARGE MORE FOR ADVERTISING. The whole thing is pretty simple.
     
  2. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Youtube Channel Memberships would do the job. Could livestream it on YouTube and only members who pay monthly to the Blazers channel would be able to see it.
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    I don't need the service because there are free streams all over the internet.

    If there were a reasonable standalone package, or even full on league pass with no blackouts, I would gladly buy it.

    Artificial scarcity via blackouts and pushing cable packages on people is stupid. It just costs them viewers and good will.

    Again. If they don't care enough to make it easily available at a reasonable price then I don't care enough to fight a cable company for decent rates. I'll just watch one of the dozens of easily available streams on my incredibly fast and cheap internet and encourage others to do the same.

    No big deal.
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Bingo. It would be incredibly easy and forward thinking.
     
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  5. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Read the room.

    Nobody here cares about if some random Alaskan or Montanian or Seattlelite can watch a team they don't care about. But the organization cares more about them than those who actually care about the team and want to watch them night in, night out, no matter if they're at home or not, and will even buy an entire TV package in to watch the Blazers as long as it's suitable. The Blazers didn't look out for their most diehard fans because they were chasing those numbers that you're trying to excuse them with. It doesn't.

    There are no suitable ways to watch the team (legally) to watch this team away from home or on a PC. Xfinity on PC is extremely low quality, you cant watch it away from home, and you can't pause it. You can watch on ROOT Sports' website but only if they're not relegated to the "PLUS" channel (which they often are). FuboTV is a glitchy mess. Meanwhile, the organization didn't care if they ended up on services that don't have those problems (YoutubeTV, Hulu) and instead decided to push an outdated TV service that only made it through 25% of the season, while bragging about how Jimbo in Montana can now watch it out of boredom in his log cabin because his Comcast has it (numbers baby, numbers!)

    I understand that you don't have the perspective of a fan, but the fact that you're so dismissive of the fans' perspective is exactly why people are mad at the organization that you try to claim has nothing to do with the distribution of their own broadcast production.
     
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    blazerfan11 Well-Known Member

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    You hit the nail on the head.

    "i think this is the gripe most people have; it should not be easier/cheaper to watch games outside the market than it is within."
     
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  7. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Just not sure why some on here don't understand. I'm not dismissive of the fans at all. MORE fans can watch. YOU might be upset about the situation, but MORE fans can watch. Plain and simple. This is a business. You think they care WHERE the fans are, no. Shouldn't need to type this, but the whole concept of the business is to make money. More viewers=More money. I've said it before, it's a simple concept. I'm not speaking for the team here, because I don't know the details or ins and outs, but this is what it all looks like that to me. The viewership numbers are up big time this season. So I'm sure that's a good thing as well. And you keep thinking the TEAM is making the streaming decisions on the broadcasts, that'll get you far.
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    You guys want to merge this with the 4 other FUCK BLAZERS BROADCASTING THEY HATE THE FANS STREAMING I CAN'T SEE THE GAMES MY WAY threads on here please. Would make it alot easier to explain how simple this situation is.
     
  9. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    I know it's a business, but this deal has been extremely short-sighted and the organization is losing money because of how many people watch illegal streams because they have no other viable option. I would hope views would be up going from a tanking season to a hot start, views have been up for me too (gotten pretty far). It is NOT a smart business decision to fall out of touch with your diehard fans to attract passive fans who aren't from Portland. Those aren't the fans that'll buy merch and tickets, or that'll talk to all their friends about the game, or drive engagement (and the eyeballs this orginzation is so desperate for) on social media. Instead, the organization gives these fans the impression that they don't care, and that is a bad long-term business decision all because they didn't negotiate strongly enough with a regional sports network.

    That is ridiculous, because regional sports networks are trending away from the pay TV bundle that is driving these views, and the organization certainly doesn't need an RSN to distribute it's own in-house product on a subscription-based model. As I said, this entire thing has been short-sighted.
     
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    I don't think anyone said "fuck blazers broadcasting".

    More like fuck Blazer management who signs these deals that eff over the local fans and make it easier for people outside the market to watch Blazer games than it is for local fans.
     
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  11. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    You lost me at the team is losing money because of this tv deal.
     
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    Or just go half on it with a buddy then stop the service when the season ends
     
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    More fans would be able to watch legally if they negotiated better. You're the one that said views = money.

    If you don't what "long-term" means, then oh well. Blockbusters made money in 2005. Better to be ahead of the curve than behind it, and the traditional business model isn't always the best.
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Yeah, it's not personal with Blazers broadcasting. Don't know why anyone would take it as such.
     
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    Fairly-Hard Former Member Gone New!

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    I'd go for this for sure. Not exactly sure how much i would save but i would save a bit.
     
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    I pay $260 a month for Comcast so I get all the games. But I watch other NBA and NFL games on streaming sites
     
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    Part of the frustration lies with the league on the blackouts and their antiquated way to doing things. Last time I checked on League Pass I get blacked out on all three Texas teams, SA I understand being about 2 hours away, but Houston is a 5 hour drive and Dallas a 7 hour drive, why in the world am I being blacked out of those last two? I get the blackouts to watch the local broadcasts of games, but I can't even get Houston or Dallas games if I wanted to legally on any of the cable packages. That's extremely frustrating and is the same with MLBtv that I get in for baseball. Add to it that the NBA doesn't want each team going off and doing their own rouge internet streams because they are pushing the League Pass model. It will be interesting to see how much longer they hold onto this old way of doing things and finally embrace the new. It really is a trip that I can be 2,000 miles away and can watch the team for easier and cheaper than someone living a few blocks from the Rose Garden.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Currently in Bend, I am blacked out on league pass from not only Blazer games and TNT/ESPN games, but also Kings and Warriors games. It's because the local cable company offers a package that can broadcast the channels where those teams play. And that package was $125+ per month last I checked.

    I don't think it's the league that is entirely driving the blackout rules, but also the cable companies and networks.
     
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    Seems like simple economics to me. Demand is going to be much higher closer in.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    i don't think it's that simple. as @BonesJones mentioned, there can be opportunity cost of indirect income for the franchise when they lose local engagement.
     
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