Politics Ukraine / Russia

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  1. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Advocate for change. Call out corruption when it is seen. Support those who also call it out.

    Try to build momentum for change.

    Probably more, but can't think of it off the top of my head.

    What more is a poor person supposed to do?
     
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    Not stab Ukraine in the back, add to the list.
     
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    That's very vague, but I suspect none of that's really going to happen anyway.
     
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    Road Ratt King of my own little world

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    Not support any politician or political party that allows this level of corruption to occur in America. From the president to the governors to the mayors. Seemingly none of them can do anything about the mounting homeless crisis in America.

    It is clear they don't care about Americans anymore. Yet both parties supports still support their parties corruption.

    The better question would be. Why does everyone support this level of corruption in their party?

    I actually don't care about the answer. American politics is a literal waste of time. As both sides supporters do little more than defend their politicians/party.

    I actually don't care what a human thinks at all. That goes beyond politics. They believe so many lies from their politicians, they themselves couldn't possibly tell you the truth if they tried.
     
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    noknobs Well-Known Member

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    Not supporting anyone isn't going to solve anything. I admire your spirit but this isn't a solution.
     
  6. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Yes. This has been a stimulating conversation.

    Thank you.
     
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    I haven't heard any Republicans speaking out against big oil company profits.....
     
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    Russo-Ukrainian War. Day 340: U.N. refugee chief: Russia violating principles of child protection in Ukraine. Fierce fighting for Vuhledar and Bakhmut continues.
     
  9. calvin natt

    calvin natt Confeve

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    It’s good know that not holding anyone accountable or enforcing rules isn’t just an American thing. How many war crimes does someone get to commit before the world does something about it? Nobody can convince me that there isn’t a way to get Putin and throw his ass in prison for war crimes.
     
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    Seal Team 6!

    It's likely to do with us not wanting other countries to send hitmen after our president.
     
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    This isn’t already the case?
     
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    I honestly have no idea. I would guess not. No world leader wants the US to put a public hit on them. That's suicide.

    If it happens it happens in a way that nobody would ever know.
     
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    I just don’t get how we can collectively just let a guy do this in this day and age. I realize bad shit happens everyday all over the world but not to this scale for this long. Putin needs to know there has to be an end game that isn’t good for him.
     
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    What "we"? US Government? They can invade ... and start World War III. US population? All we can do is be aware and push our legislators to continue supporting Ukraine.

    We can also support groups like Amnesty International and Doctors Without Borders who are making a real difference.

    Other ideas?
     
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    We = the world (outside Russia China Iran etc)
     
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    Thanks for clarifying.
    Back Ukraine.
    Tighten sanctions.
    Do what they can to help independent media in Russia.
    Welcome refugees.
     
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    All good things and I *think* for the most part those things are happening. Not sure on the media part in Russia. I think it’s time to up the pressure beyond these things. Ukrainians dying every day needlessly, buildings getting leveled, Putin only going to get more and more desperate and crazy. Then what? We waited and have to react. It just feels like the world is waiting and watching - and yes giving money and supplies - but they need more.
     
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    How long will Russian military officers put up with Putin if they keep getting slaughtered?
     
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    agree, this will go on for much longer even years unless Putin is dealt with soon.
     
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    So many are going to die, the country is going to continue to get ruined and the world will look back and wish they did more. Guaranteed.
     
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