OT Portland and surrounding area Homeless Situation

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  1. SharpeScooterShooter

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    I dunno tough love was very effective for me growing up. I knew better than to not be out passed curfew for fear of the wooden paddle/ willow branch.
    Not advocating for violence, but it was very effective in me not veering too far off the wanted path
     
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    Sure. It worked in a way for me too as a kid. It kept me in line until it didn't. Using fear as a tool doesn't work as a governance. It creates distrust and pits authority vs everyone. Fear is how dictators and fascists lead. Fear is part of the reason we are where we are in this country currently.
     
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    I think there is a difference between fear and known repercussions.
     
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    Between fear and consequences sure. Doesn't mean fear is a good tool to use, especially in governance.
     
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    Fear is not as effective as desire.

    If somebody is doing something because they are afraid they will be punished they will do it just well enough to avoid being punished.

    If somebody is doing something because they want to they will do it as well as they can possibly do it.

    Huge difference.
     
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    And yet you ended up living on the streets for a short period, no? Doesn't seem like an effective form of parenting to me. Causation/correlation obviously comes in to effect in every situation. But having tough parents, and ending up in a situation nobody would ever want their child to end up in doesn't, to me, seem like an effective mode of parenting.

    I don't know the circumstances of how you ended up homeless, I don't want to make rash judgements and what not. But a tough love parenting style that has a kid end up homeless doesn't seem like a good one to me. I don't care what lesson you learned along the way.
     
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    Without knowing the details of my youth, you don't think its fairly presumptuous to just assume its poor parenting?
    I was an honor roll student my senior year and won scholarships.
     
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    My dad was a tough love guy and that's not the reason I ended up homeless.
     
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    My favorite form of punishment for our little boogers is taking away things they really enjoy. I’ve also learned never to give empty threats so there’s no gray area where they see what they can get away with. I’m just the step dad. Be disrespectful or a pain I snatch that PlayStation remote or cell phone so quick and lock it in my safe. It works well in my case.
     
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    Yep. You have to follow through. You say you are taking something away you have to do it. You give them an opening and it's over.
     
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    Just another tax I'm paying that I see little benefit from.
     
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    Who would you recommend voting for who would spend it better?
     
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    I'd rather not pay the tax if they're not going to do anything meaningful with it.
     
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    Well, I understand that keeping your money seems better. But something obviously needs to be done. You can't do anything untill you allocate funds.

    We have now done our part and allocated enough funds. If done right we could save far more than the funds we have approved and improve the living conditions everyone in the state.
     
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