Chicago Nance trade

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  1. 1 Eye Jack

    1 Eye Jack Well-Known Member

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    https://sports.yahoo.com/bulls-draft-pick-leverage-could-150000897.html

    Unbelievable how dumb this trade was still can’t believe he didn’t have the foresight to understand it would lock up all of our future picks until this pick was conveyed to Chicago.

    personally like to get this trade completed whether it’s trading a player or sending Knick pick to them to get closure.

    Curious if there are any players on Chicago we might want and make this a bigger trade?
     
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    Yeah it was odd when it happened that we encumbered our pick for so long. I wondered if it was a ploy to basically remove first round pick discussions from trade negotiations, since we could just say "sorry we don't have the ability to trade a pick". Or maybe the front office just assumed it was so likely we continue to make the playoffs the protections wouldn't matter after the season. Or Neil tried to protect Jody from herself. Or nobody had any critical though put into this and just fell asleep on the job.

    I have heard rumors that Chicago is open to us unprotecting the pick, we could just flip them one of the second round picks from the Golden State trade and unprotect the 2024 pick thus freeing up 2026 2028 2030 and swaps the other years. Or perhaps we can give them #23 and close this out at the draft, that would free up 2024 pick and 2025 swap as well.

    So really I don't think it actually prevents an allstar coming to Portland in a big trade that many fans are concerned of. But yeah, just seems like Neil needlessly made the Blazers options more cumbersome.
     
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    that trade was GM malpractice. But that GM had been practicing similar mal for years
     
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    Yup. With all of that practice, he’d become quite proficient at mal.
     
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    And to think that wasn't even a top 3 failure during his tenure.
     
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    Yep but I don't think it was necessarily worse than two firsts and Ariza for RoCo or trading the size and upside on the perimeter that we had with Gary for the sub 6'4" Norm. All three: Norm, RoCo and Nance were traded for fucking nothing during the trade deadline of 2022. CJ was the value in the NOLA trade and we got nothing back in the Clippers trade. Three first round picks and Gary Trent Jr. squandered for pretty much nothing at all.
     
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    Raptors are said to not be bringing Trent Jr back...I don't see him as a big loss. He hasn't done squat since his first season in Toronto
     
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    Where was Olshey from? Los Angeles.

    where did Nance play his best ball?
    did Larry have connections with Olshey's secret L.A. cult Blazers thingamabobber? Clippers, Billups, Bledsoe, Los Angeles, Nance, Olshey.

    conspiracy ?? nepotism ??
    Did Olshey use his green light to pack Portland with L.A. stuff, while completely disregarding future consequences?
     
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    Everybody loved that trade lol

    Show me some posts where people hated it and were complaining it was going to hamstring us in the future lol
     
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    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    Also keep in mind that Neil literally had the choice between Nance or Markkanen….
     
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    I do not remember that. I do remember getting grief for wanting to draft Markkanen though.
     
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    Markkanen was sign and trade. I think as a tax team the Blazers couldn't acquire him?
     
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    He was a 16/7 player at the time:

    “According to two sources, the talks originally centered on Markkanen landing with the Trail Blazers in exchange for Jones Jr. and the lottery-protected first-round pick. When the Bulls sought an extra second-round pick, the talks expanded to include the Cavaliers.”
     
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    playoff Blazers! Hit that Rewind button << Portland had late 1st rounders Simons and Nassir rapidly developing. No point in getting another developmental player. Trade those 1sts, gosh dangit, Blazers were WCF bound. Win Win Win, we don't want any losers in this family. GO BLAZERS!
    Grabbing Nance for veteran bench support actually seemed like a decent move at that time. "Hey, we've actually heard of that Nance guy, wasn't he on the Lakers? Wow, we got a Bulls player, not some chump from the Bobcats or Hornets or whatever" Big name player, his dad was famous, woohoo !!

    The idea of Lillard missing an entire season, and the Blazers completely imploding seemed outlandish. Portland was supposed to easily make the playoffs, Bulls would get their pick, and life as a good NBA team was supposed to continue in Portland. Renew your season tickets today !!
     
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    In a vacuum I still don't hate that trade, I more blame Olshey for completely missing that RoCo , Powell, and CJ had disrupted the on court product to toxic level.s
     
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    I liked the Nance trade I don’t like that we left an open ended draft pick that has tied up our other first rounders until trade is complete. As GM you have to think about things like that. Just dumb!!!
     
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    WUT?

    so, to summarize, on one hand you like the Nance trade, but on the other hand you hate the Nance trade?
     
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    Yea you nailed it lol. I liked Nance but I would have preferred that the pick to Chicago had to be used by first two years or turn into 2 2nd rounders. The way he did it locked up trading our future 1st for several years.
     
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